Evidence of AntiSemitism?

[morqthana]

Show your screenshots of this imagined Jew hatred boyo, you must have loads?

Oh he has.

He has loads of imagined Jew hatred - he sees it everywhere.

Nothing real though.

 

[morqthana]

It was so full of Jew hate that the police got involved and the whole thread was disappeared.

Prove it.

 

[morqthana]

That’s how I remember it too.

When did it happen?

 

[King Billy]

The bit below from your research above is the most useful explanation for me:

'They argue that "intifada"—Arabic for "shaking off" or "uprising"—is historically associated with violent attacks on civilians during the first and second Palestinian intifadas. Consequently"globalise the intifada" is interpreted by many as a call to spread violence against Jews and Israelis worldwide. In the UK, police have announced that using this phrase could lead to arrests for stirring up racial hatred.'

^^That is certainly how I interpreted the phrase when I first heard it.

Your comment encapsulates the problem, highlighted by me.
'They', and 'many' meaning those that have the ear of the policy makers.
So an innocent phrase demonstrating support for the Palestinian struggle against their oppressors has been judged to be anti-Semitic.
Just like they claim that criticism of Israel and Zionism is also anti-Semitic.

My interpretation is support for the Palestinian struggle against the Gaza, Jerusalem, and more increasingly the West Bank occupation by Israel.
The phrase specifically calls for spreading the support for Palestinian struggle against oppression, globally.
Similarly, Hamas has been called a terrorist organisation, by UK and others, despite the distinct lack of any terrorist attacks against UK, or any other country, besides Israel, by Hamas.

Whether it's islamophobia or unwavering support for Israel, including its genocidal behaviour against Palestinians, I'm not sure. Maybe both.

Under what other circumstance(s) could a phrase, or call demonstrating support for an oppressed people be interpreted as terrorism against the oppressors?
The struggle against Apartheid in South Africa was and is a direct comparison, as was/is the struggle for the emancipation of women.

It can only be interpreted as support for Israel's occupation of Gaza, etc, (and the conduct that follows) by those countries that consider Hamas as terrorists, and interpret "Globalise the Intifada" as racist.

Those, in society, that see the perversion in support for an occupying and oppressing force in Gaza, etc are slowly winning legal battles to overturn the perversion demonstrated by unwavering support of brutal oppression of a people, by Israel.
Palestinian Action have been judged to not be a terror organisation, yet the UK proscription remains in place.
Similarly, criticism of Israel has been interpreted to not be anti-Semitic, despite claims by Israel and their supporters.

My argument is simply that "Globalise the Intifada" is simply an expression of support for an oppressed people, and that calls for support should be raised internationally, just like the emancipation of women and the struggle against Apartheid.
May I respectfully remind you that the UK government resisted emancipation for women, and supported Apartheid in South Africa.
Both such policies are now seen, in an historical hindsight, as perverted.

Of course there are other examples of UK supporting what would now be seen as racist and perverted policies.
Emancipation of women, and South Africa Apartheid are only presented as comparative scenarios.

 

[morqthana]

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1) That's not antisemitism, it is anti-Israel. You are persisting with your false and dangerous conflation.

2) It was obviously not considered to be unacceptable enough for Risteard to be be banned - he's still here.

 

[King Billy]

No, but it provides an ideal platform for that type of hatred as opposed to, say, a thread about combi boilers.

Criticism of a country's policies is not spreading hatred.
It's sheer nonsense to suggest it is, and an attempt to shut down valid criticism.
When you criticise Labour's policies, are you spreading hatred?
When you start a thread about Labour, Starmer, etc, are you creating a platform to spread hatred?

 

[morqthana]

or they provide a great umbrella for people to slip in their hatred of Jews.

Only something seen by people with the twisted mindset of trying to silence criticism of Israel by calling it antisemitism.

 

[morqthana]

As already discussed, Palestinians are a semitic people.

Yes, but antisemitism means negative attitudes to people who are, and because they are, Jewish, not because they are semitic. There are plenty of non-semitic Jews.

 

[morqthana]

Your entire argument is based on the lack of screenshots

Yours is based on lack of anything.

 

[King Billy]

One who, IRL, should ideally be reported for bringing the profession into disrepute.

Especially when they intentionally misinterpret and mispresent law, and claim they are or have acted in a legal role.

 

[King Billy]

It's a bit like when some conspiracy fantasy nutcase claims that the fact that there is no evidence just proves that there is a conspiracy to cover up the truth.

The religious nutters also present similar circular arguments.
God exists because the Bible says so, and that's God's word, so it must be true.

 

[King Billy]

Have they got room for 5 billion people in Mississippi?

Only on the flood plain.

 

[morqthana]

Like this, he was comparing Jews to Nazis
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Only if you think that Jews are destroying the homes and cities of people whose religion and ethnicity is different, murdering the population, and annexing their land.

Do you?

Because if you don't that statement cannot be comparing Jews to Nazis, can it.

 

[King Billy]

or they provide a great umbrella for people to slip in their hatred of Jews.

No umbrella needed for other to slip in their anti foreigner hatred, especially for Muslims.
The typical racist will exploit any opportunity to espouse their racism.
The'll even search their dictionaries to find words, or mangle obvious words, so that the auto-censor doesn't pick it up.

 

[King Billy]

No need to warn. No need to explain. I would leave it there and stop talking about moderation.

Is your finger hovering over the report button, just waiting for the opportunity?