Failed boiler upgrade.

The 37Kw boiler is in order as this allows you to have adequate supply of instant hot water.

How can you know this without knowing his circumstances? If he lives alone, and only has one bath, then it is over-sized.

Don't know about you, but I don't see a 37 kW combi as too much if you want a decent shower in winter when the incoming water is 4 C; by the time the water reaches the shower, you have about 11 litres per minute left at 45C rise. That is not bad, but by no means massive.
 
Thanks for your advice and info Witespirit66. I will fit wheelhead valves to a couple of the rads and see how it goes - a lot less grief than converting to a two pipe system. If removing the TRV's doesn't solve my problem, then I suppose I shall just have to face the two pipe installation.


I do not understand why you are ignoring sound advice?. Vaillant advised you that the single pipe system would not work because the pump is to strong. The reason they stated this is because, unlike your previous pump, the new pump will pump the water around the one pipe system a lot faster, resulting in no temp difference between flow and return. Hence after the first attempt at heating the radiators, the pipes on the circuit will, as you have proved, will get unbearably hot all the way round. this will cause the boiler to shut down by its own thermostat and will not fire up again until the heat in the pipes have dispersed into the radiators by gravity, this cycle can continue for hours. Converting to hand wheel valves will make little difference and the only way that you will get an efficient system is to change it to two pipe where the radiators are under the influence of the pump. I am simply trying to save you wasting time and money.

Regards

spraggo
 
1 pipe systems ? well you could try ? cutting a valve between the tees eg & balancing the flow , (take trvs off ?) in theory if the valve was shut the water would have to go through the rad ! which would be ok untill u shut the rad off , this would than shut the entire ch down !

I have done this balancing type of valve on 1 pipe systems & seen it done many times in the past ,with some success , However , only on old style boilers ? never on a vorsprung durch (Vaillant) condenser ! she might not like it ?????????
 
1 pipe systems ? well you could try ? cutting a valve between the tees eg & balancing the flow , (take trvs off ?) in theory if the valve was shut the water would have to go through the rad ! which would be ok untill u shut the rad off , this would than shut the entire ch down !

I have done this balancing type of valve on 1 pipe systems & seen it done many times in the past ,with some success , However , only on old style boilers ? never on a vorsprung durch (Vaillant) condenser ! she might not like it ?????????


I take it that that is the joke of the day :lol: :lol: :? :? :roll:
 
Why is it a joke or why do u think it is a joke ????????



I don`t suppose it is a joke really ,when you think about it if you did this to all the rads, they would all eventually get hot and there would be a wide temp difference between the flow and return until the last rad got hot and that would keep the boiler condensing. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :?:
 
The plumber you got was an idiot.
He has over sized the boiler and fitted thermostatic radiator valves
to a single pipe system.
Take the thermostatic radiator valves off fit normal radiator valves
and these should be open fully and turn the boiler pump down to speed two or one.
I two pipe sysem will certainly cure the problems and give more responsive heating.
 
The plumber you got was an idiot.
He has over sized the boiler and fitted thermostatic radiator valves
to a single pipe system.
Take the thermostatic radiator valves off fit normal radiator valves
and these should be open fully and turn the boiler pump down to speed two or one.
I two pipe sysem will certainly cure the problems and give more responsive heating.



Did not know you could turn the pump speed down on a combi boiler, would this not interfere with the hot water performance. :? :?: :?:
 
with the boiler set to max, it shuts down at 80C and the pipes all round the house are too hot to touch. The bathroom is the first rad and gets very hot quickly. The rest take a lot longer and never get anything like too hot to touch.

radiators are bottom fed. Is this OK on single pipe system?

Sounds right to me.?
 
with the boiler set to max, it shuts down at 80C and the pipes all round the house are too hot to touch. The bathroom is the first rad and gets very hot quickly. The rest take a lot longer and never get anything like too hot to touch.

radiators are bottom fed. Is this OK on single pipe system?

Sounds right to me.?



Doooooh not another one?. :roll: :cry: :cry: :cry:
 

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