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Festool extractor with dewalt 18v tools?

Discussion in 'Tools and Materials' started by Keitai, 28 Mar 2021.

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    We have a festool extractor at work but it looks like it is the same as my Aldi at home, in that it uses the tools' power to detect on/off.
    Festool do make a Bluetooth one and (I think) hand held/pocket remote for battery tools?

    I'd just switch the vacuum on and not rely on communication between a battery tool and the festool.
    My cheap Aldi has a three position switch. On/off/power takeoff
     
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    How about the hose connection between the two? Will it suck all the dust out of the dewalt?
     
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    I believe that (with adaptors?) it would suck the dust out of everything with a dust extract point.
    My Aldi will fit my screwfix brand random orbital sander.
    We use a nilfisk at work on Makita sanders and routers.
    The festool stays stuck to a festool chopsaw.

    If the dewalt doesn't have a bag or outlet on the back then no
     
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    There are plenty of people on ebay doing adaptors. There may already be a suitable one out there. Only thing I'd say about the vac is that if isn't class L or class M, so may not be up to extracting from power tools. Festool themselves describe it as a "clean up extractor"
     
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    Thxs. I didnt know it didnt even meet L class criteria. I'm not sure the cheapest one which does. I'm getting a Festool sander so that's why I'm interested- would this be the best option for me until I can afford a better festool extractor?-

    https://www.screwfix.com/p/nilfisk-aero-26-21-pc-1250w-25ltr-wet-dry-vacuum-cleaner-240v/66972

    Good reviews it must at least reduce dust despite not reaching L class
     
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    Look up the V-Tuf VTM1240 at Screwfux and elsewhere.

    If you are machining or sanding plaster, drywall or softwoods you are legally obliged, as a tradesman, to use a minimum of class L extraction. If dealing with hardwood, plywood, OSB or MDF then class M is the minimum requirement. If you use a vacuum of a lower class than is required for the material you are dealing with then there is a high probability that the finer dust particles you suck up will be blown straight through the filter and back out into the room where you or your clients are breathing it in.

    The vacuum you're looking at is a "cleanup vacuum" and is not designed for power tool extraction (which is what you intend to use it for, in part?). It's your choice

    TBH, for later on, Festool make good vacuums, but Starmix/ Metabo do better ones. The M-class Metabo ASR35M has two filters where if one filter starts to clog it is automatically shut down and shaken clean whilst the other filter does double duty - so no reduction in filtration whilst continuing to function normally. The filters are also cheaper than Festool too. Only thing wrong with them is that they aren't in lime green and pale grey. What I am saying is to "don't always drink the kool-ade"
     
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    Use this for dust extraction?

    https://www.screwfix.com/p/v-tuf-vtm1240-800w-15ltr-m-class-dry-vacuum-cleaner-240v/6022x

    SFK recommended it too but not sure if he meant for just vaccing or extraction. Mostly I want it for extraction
     
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    If mostly for extraction and you do MDF or hardwood then you need a class M extractor
     
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    Ok. ordered this -

    They say L class but the only difference with M class is that it beeps when filters block. U just need to keep them clean and they're the same model. Apparently beeping on smaller sanders etc is a pain. It should filter out plaster dust and MDF according to guy on phone. The M class Midi extractor is £440 as opposed to £375 for L class


    https://www.powertool-supplies.co.u...fgw--TmcQvjnTtRQMaAtbZEALw_wcB#/product/53400
     
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    Then the guy you spoke to was an idiot (or a salesman...) Class M filters are more efficient than class L filters. The HSE specification is as follows:

    L Class ≤ 1.0% Dusts with maximum allowable concentrations (MAC) > 1 mg/m³
    M Class < 0.1% Dusts with maximum allowable concentrations (MAC) ≥ 0.1 mg/m³


    In addition an M class extractor has to be fitted with pressure sensors across the filter and be set up to either self clean the filters or to shut down in the event of a filter blockage.

    Festool might well only do one filter element, but in that case the sales guy should have made that clear
     
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    This was a guy from powertool something. Doesn't make sense that he would lie deliberately because he could have made more money selling M class one.

    I actually took his advice and then bought it from screwfix I'll ask screwfix if they can send it back and then pay the extra £60 for M class and put up with the beeping. Apparently lots of people get sick of the beeping and send it back. So basically he lied about filters then?
     
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    Rule number one about sales people - sales people are either ignorant or liars

    If a class M filter is the same as a class L one, why do Festool list different filters?

    For anyone out there reading this who is a genuine sales person, I apologise, but the rag bag collection of snake oil salesmen, incompetents, liars and out and out conmen I have to deal with almost every time I talk to a power tool sales firm is really, really depressing
     
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