Filling in a hole left by oringal socket

[chriselevate]

Hi,

I've just done a job for my dad in his old peoples flat and I've had to make a modification leaving me stuck for ideas.

I've swapped several of his night storage heater for newer, more effcient and better looking units. The old storage heaters had a double spur socket connecting them to the mains but the new ones are now only a single spur connecting them.

My problem is.... I've had to change the size of the white plastic plate and back box to a single sized socket. This is fine on the 3 walls where the contruction of the wall is a solid brick wall. With these I'll simple render over them and the use multifinish for the last few mm's.

Oh while I'm here... what's the best best plaster to use to patch areas like this? In other words now plastering the whole wall but simply applying a finishing coat to an effected area.

My question is... how do I fill the gap left by the one that's a dry lined wall with blocks behind it. In other words.... one of them is fitted to a dry lined wall and therefore has a large drafty void behind it.

Thanks

 

[masona]

My question is... how do I fill the gap left by the one that's a dry lined wall with blocks behind it. In other words.... one of them is fitted to a dry lined wall and therefore has a large drafty void behind it.

You could use dot n dab adhesive + plasterboard but will need to buy a bag with a lot of wastage or screw/rawlplug the correct size batten thickness onto the blocks then screw the plasterboard onto the batten or slide a longer length batten behind the plasterboard and use plasterboard screws on the outer of the plasterboard to pick up the batten then screw the off-cut plasterboard to the batten then use self adhesive mesh tape over the joint then skim it over

 

[Richard C]

With these I'll simple render over them and the use multifinish for the last few mm's.
Oh while I'm here... what's the best best plaster to use to patch areas like this? In other words now plastering the whole wall but simply applying a finishing coat to an effected area.

I wouldn’t use Multi; with such a small area it’ll be a pig to blend it in. Bring the base coat out as close as you can to the surrounding wall & just use a decent filler; you could even do it with a small bag or one coat but build it up in a couple of layers.

My question is... how do I fill the gap left by the one that's a dry lined wall with blocks behind it. In other words.... one of them is fitted to a dry lined wall and therefore has a large drafty void behind it.

Get yourself a tube of decent grab adhesive, cut some bits of plasterboard, stick the first to the wall & stick on subsequent bits, spacing out until you get approximately to the level at the back of the board; cut the last bit so you get a 3mm gap all the way around, stick it on & gun some adhesive around the gap; once it’s all gone off, fill it out to the surrounding level as above. You can also do it by sticking some bits of wood to the back of the original board if there is enough space to get them in & then stick the PB to those (after the adhesive holding the wood has gone off of course); or just by sticking the a bit of PB to the edge of the existing board, just put a decent screw into the PB so you can hold it in place until the adhesive takes a good hold. Once it’s gone off it will be almost as strong as the original.

 

[chriselevate]

So I can cut a section of plasterboard, slide it into the void with no nails on it and stick it to the back of the exisiting plasterboard. You suggest screwing some plasterboard screws into it with some wood behind it so I've got something to hold onto when pulling into position?

The use some no nails to fill in the gaps around the edge and finally apply several layers of one coat to fill up the 10mm gap left? What product are you suggesting for this? Does thistle have a small bag of something I could use? Is it a powder I'm buying or is it pr-mixed? Could you post a link to a product on the wickes website that will do it? I'd personally use bonding and then multi finish but I hear what you're saying about trying to blend it in being a difficult job with this stuff.

Thanks

 

[mattylad]

here is a video of the technique.

Although its a bit over the top, as its a US one

But it gives you the gist of it.

 

[Richard C]

here is a video of the technique.

Although its a bit over the top, as its a US one

But it gives you the gist of it.

I’ve been doing it “my way” for years but I’ve honestly never seen that clip before; describes it brilliantly but, I agree, a little OTT.

 

[Richard C]

The use some no nails to fill in the gaps around the edge and finally apply several layers of one coat to fill up the 10mm gap left?

That’s one way but it’s easier to do it as my other suggestion & Mattylad’s link to the video clip; but they will all work. I personally do not like & never use “no more nails” get yourself a tube of decent “trade” grab adhesive.

What product are you suggesting for this? Does thistle have a small bag of something I could use? Is it a powder I'm buying or is it pr-mixed? Could you post a link to a product on the wickes website that will do it? I'd personally use bonding and then multi finish but I hear what you're saying about trying to blend it in being a difficult job with this stuff.

You could use Bonding to fill out to within around 1mm but, as I said before, forget Multifinish as it will give you a hard time blending in such a small area; get yourself some fine filler or a small bag of one coat plaster.

 

[chriselevate]

Brilliant video!

Love it! Make it look very easy! 4 drywall screws, some plasterboard and a small batten! Very cheap and easy.

So which filler would you suggest to finalise the coat with? Do wickes sell a small bag? I've always yet to find a good filler tbh... it's probably becuase I'm using exterior filler and stuff. Can you show me what sort of product would work well that I can get locally from wickes. Is it a thistle product that'll be best or their own brand etc?

thanks again guys!

Veyr very helpful!

 

[Richard C]

Love it! Make it look very easy! 4 drywall screws, some plasterboard and a small batten! Very cheap and easy.

The principle is exactly the same as I was describing but as, mattylad says, in typical American fashion they have needlessly over complicated with all that fishing line & screws; I just stick it in there with grab adhesive.

So which filler would you suggest to finalise the coat with? Do wickes sell a small bag? I've always yet to find a good filler tbh... it's probably becuase I'm using exterior filler and stuff. Can you show me what sort of product would work well that I can get locally from wickes. Is it a thistle product that'll be best or their own brand etc?

Either will do but you only need a small bag; I wasnlt sure if thistle did anything other than 25kg but it appears they do;

http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.j...refview=search&ts=1247041879258&isSearch=true

http://www.wickes.co.uk/One-Coat-Plaster/invt/163571

Or a tub of ordinary redimix fine filler will also do it, just fill it out in several coats;
http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.j...refview=search&ts=1247042144370&isSearch=true

 

[masona]

So which filler would you suggest to finalise the coat with?

The best fine filler I've used to blend in is Easi-fill, again a big bag for what you need