fitting electric shower

[electric]

I am having an electric shower fitted shortly.It is a new installation(previous shower was mixer ,not electric).It will have its own fuse etc. fitted external to the consumer unit.
How are the connections made to the consumer unit,cable size,physical connection etc.?
The shower will be fitted by an electrician,but would like to know the correct procedure.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

How are the connections made to the consumer unit,

Screws.

cable size,

Depends on rating of shower, rating of protective device, length of cable, method of cable installation and any derating factors.

physical connection etc.?

Screws.

The shower will be fitted by an electrician,but would like to know the correct procedure.

Why? Don't you trust him to be able to do it properly?

 

[Adam_151]

How are the connections made to the consumer unit,

Screws.

Ah, thats where I've been going wrong then, I was using sticky tape

 

[Steve]

The shower will be fitted by an electrician,but would like to know the correct procedure.

Why? Don't you trust him to be able to do it properly?

if he's anything like my ex electrician, watch him like a hawk.

 

[rhino36]

It should be protected by an RCD not a fuse and do not forget that bathrooms are covered by Part P so if your sparky is not Part P registered you will have to have it tested by someone who is.

 

[Adam_151]

It should be protected by an RCD not a fuse

I think what you mean is that its good practice to protect it with an RCD as well as an over current device (it doesn't matter whether its a fuse or an MCB), or you can use an RCBO which combines both functions in one device

Just clearing that up, because people have been known to install showers with just an RCD and no over current protection

and do not forget that bathrooms are covered by Part P so if your sparky is not Part P registered you will have to have it tested by someone who is.

Not really true, you have to notify building control, and they can have whoever they want to inspect the work (at their expense) - well thats the way its meant to work anyway...

 

[rhino36]

Sorry Adam yes that was the info i was trying to impart, as for Building Control if someone is Part P compliant they are allowed to self certificate and Building Control are given a copy for their records.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

do not forget that bathrooms are covered by Part P so if your sparky is not Part P registered you will have to have it tested by someone who is.

Not accurate. Part P of the Building Regulations "covers" all work on low voltage or extra-low voltage fixed electrical cables or fixed electrical equipment located on the consumer's side of the electricity supply meter in dwellings. In England and Wales.

Not really true, you have to notify building control, and they can have whoever they want to inspect the work (at their expense) - well thats the way its meant to work anyway...

Indeed, in England and Wales.

Sorry Adam yes that was the info i was trying to impart, as for Building Control if someone is Part P compliant they are allowed to self certificate and Building Control are given a copy for their records.

Indeed, in England and Wales.

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Location: Ireland

 

[rhino36]

As i can see Sheds you are well aware of Part P, just trying to keep it simple, we could talk about Part P all night.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Err... the point I'm trying to make is that you and Adam are telling him about what that the law requires in this country.

How does telling a foreigner about laws which do not apply to him make things simple?

 

[Adam_151]

Sorry ban, didn't notice his location

 

[colport27]

True Ban, apparently Ireland are waiting to see how well it works here before they implement it over there.
We are the Guinea Pigs????

 

[electric]

Phew...........and i taught i was just having an electric shower fitted.

 

[rhino36]

Me sorry too Ban, i must stop replying to things this early in the morning, your humble servant

 

[ban-all-sheds]

That's OK - you owe me free access to the webcam in Claudia Schiffer's bathroom for one year, and two illegal acts.