Mikey, Mikey, such bold faced dishonesty i've thankfully seldom witnessed.
As you say the posts are there to be read and they prove w/o any doubt whatsoever that what I say is true
Hib said:
In other words can i just randomly check continuity in an appliance w/o fear of something blowing as long as i don't make any mistakes - like grabbing hold of the live for example?
The very next post…
Pinocchio said:
continuity testing shouldn't cause an issue, insulation testing on the other hand...
What meter are you using?
What are you testing?
Why haven't you isolated the appliance before carrying out any tests?
Mike knew I was testing live.
And as in my immediately previous post –
Hib said:
Rocket on the other hand gets the same information and is so horrified that he says:
I am glad you are still alive to type this post.
Even
AFTER Rocket has given his apocalypse opinion, Pinocchio then goes on to say:
well, if it wasn't aliens... then it must have been some spurious chance happening that you have overlooked.
How you can shamelessly deny those facts is very sad Pinocchio. An astonishing level of immaturity and dishonesty – hang ur head in shame.
And u Rocket –
Rocket said:
I still don't see where Mikey has said that putting an ohmmeter across a live component such that enough current flows to instantly trip a (probably 32a, yes?) MCB wouldn't damage anything
When I informed Mike that I was continuity testing and not current testing….
Mike said:
Hib said:
Cheers Mik and BAS
the probes definitely weren't connected for the current.
well, it was probably alien intervention, or sumthink
Seriously fellas – what is ur malfunction?
Rocket, HOW does putting a continuity tester across a component cause a 32a MCB to trip?
You seem to be saying that because something tripped a 32a MCB, then
of course it's going to damage the cooker. But that just begs the question - what caused the MCB to trip? Surely i shouldn't have to point that out.
John1 said:
I think the long of the short of it is that NO ONE is going to advise you to do continuity testing on anything live with a multimeter.
John, I never asked anyone to say that live continuity testing is OK, because as we all now know (even me) it has no advantage over dead testing. What I asked was “should it have caused the bang”. And Mike’s very, very clear answer to that question was “NO”. He never said it was a great idea, and I never said he said it was a great idea, and I never demanded that anyone say it was a great idea. All I asked was ‘regardless of the risk of working live should it have caused the meltdown’ – Mike’s answer – “NO”.
Regarding H&S – more than enough has been said about it on this thread already, no-one said it’s not important, but the job was 6 months ago and it is completely irrelevant to the questions I’m asking – so please
be quiet about health and safety and concentrate on the problem.
If Mike and Rocket are willing to pursue this, that’s grand, if not then can anyone else answer the following:
Rocket said:
I still don't see where Mikey has said that putting an ohmmeter across a live component such that enough current flows to instantly trip a (probably 32a, yes?) MCB wouldn't damage anything
Rocket please explain to me EXACTLY how continuity testing would cause an adverse effect on the cooker (Notice how at his point Rocket lives up to his name and we never here from him again).The way I see it, the cooker affects the meter, the meter has a completely insignificant effect on the cooker.
Mike said:
If you had a probe in the 'test for current' socket, not the 'test for voltage' but you then touched on something live, IT could rapidly go into melt down. (some current meters are unfused, which makes them more accurate, but care needs to be used) this would probably happen irrespective of the setting on the meter control.
Isn’t the ‘it’ that Mike speaks of here – the meter? Mike clearly thinks that there should have been no problem continuity testing. But even when he suggests that i was current testing he still has no explanation for the cooker damage - he is here only concerned with damage to the meter.
The question is as unanswered as ever - how did the cooker get damaged?