Yes looks like it. I said that at the top of the latest post with pictures. Although researching it, it does not seem like the end of the world, if treated, and 75% of the joists do seem sound and solid enough to be sistered to.
Floor Is Sinking Under Toilet, Help please.
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the floor was dippin an the WC was leanin forward with every user because ther was no joist support exactly under the damp patch on the subfloor. plus the short subfloor boards were left floatin uder the wall(?)
is that a stairwell bulkhead to the left of the pics?
probe the joists for live woodworms - any live ones drill a few small holes and soak with chemicals.
you'd do well to cut an resite the cold supply to the WC - lift it higher an it will give you room to screw asister on to that joist.
is that joist definitly firmly fixed at the double joist an under the bath at that far wall?
an the joist nearest to camera seems to suddenly end in thin air?
lookin at the pics again i'd say if you got a joiner in they'd pull up more of the flooran check just how its been slip shod carcassed in patches.
if you cut your losses with the copper pipes and replaced them with plastic going through bored holes not notches it would make for a sounder job.
is that a stairwell bulkhead to the left of the pics?
probe the joists for live woodworms - any live ones drill a few small holes and soak with chemicals.
you'd do well to cut an resite the cold supply to the WC - lift it higher an it will give you room to screw asister on to that joist.
is that joist definitly firmly fixed at the double joist an under the bath at that far wall?
an the joist nearest to camera seems to suddenly end in thin air?
lookin at the pics again i'd say if you got a joiner in they'd pull up more of the flooran check just how its been slip shod carcassed in patches.
if you cut your losses with the copper pipes and replaced them with plastic going through bored holes not notches it would make for a sounder job.
Wow, you are very observant!!
1) Stairwell bulkhead in the pic?
It is this section here:
So the toilet and start of the bath are directly above the bottom of the stairs.
2) OK, The short subfloor boards did have a bit of wood behind them (useless) but there is a solid steel weight bearing beam right behind the back wall as the house has had a large entention, so I am thinking I could attach something on top of that beam to support the back boards, timber block glued, brick, etc.
3) I have ordered the chemical to arrive tomorrow (Sat) so I will absolutely soak it a few times over a few days.
4) Water pipe I will get a plumber in to cut it down, and rejoin it when all joists are finished, and in a better position.
5) I plan to pull the far wall boards up tomorrow to absolutely check the joists are firmly connected that side on the wall. The only reason I have not done it yet, is that the boards over the joists go under the bath, so will have to sort that, and get them up to check.
6) The joist you can see nearest the camera is actually a sister joist, that isn't fixed very well, but I will sort that, looks like the previous owners just added it to lessen the gap between the joists where the foot flow will be, does not look to be any other reason as the main joist just before that looks sound.
The main problem I see, and that is in my head, is how much of the bad wood I will have to cut from the joist, and if there will be enough to support, or if I should just raise the level with glued plywood and then sister it, and maybe add one of these things to top:
I have had a day off from it today to let it all sink in and think
Thank you for your help!
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dont you take time off an lose money - you work an pay a joiner an a plumber if it all seems to much.
thing is you sometimes have to think three steps ahead on refurbishment work - lots of guys hate it an only do site work.
the double joists over the bulkhead must be dead secure an firm at each end.
one possibility is to sack most of the t&g boards an use ply as a sub-floor?
the wc supply goes up insidethe wall for say 200mm an thencomes, stubs out, out at ninety degrees.
another thing is the whole bathroom was badlydone by a DIY'er - youl end up openin up one fault an exposin another.
thing is you sometimes have to think three steps ahead on refurbishment work - lots of guys hate it an only do site work.
the double joists over the bulkhead must be dead secure an firm at each end.
one possibility is to sack most of the t&g boards an use ply as a sub-floor?
the wc supply goes up insidethe wall for say 200mm an thencomes, stubs out, out at ninety degrees.
another thing is the whole bathroom was badlydone by a DIY'er - youl end up openin up one fault an exposin another.
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Thanks. And I work from home, actually my office is right next to the offending bathroom, albeit it, it is now full of toilet/sink/cabinets and other rubbish now, so not losing any work really.
I am due to have my roof fixed in the next week or so (leaking valley), so I am wondering if the roofer would know about new joists if I struggle on it. I might ask him to take a look.
I'll let you know how I get on, and I appreciate all the advice!
Yep Bob definitely knows his stuff but has a low opinion of DIYers. How do you know the work wasn't the work of a cowboy "builder"? There are so many cowboys out there its not true and even the Pros will not take as much time, care and attention as someone doing it there-self.
I'm not saying every DIYer is great at what they do - far from it but what I am saying is that being a DIYer or a PRO means nothing. There are good and bad in both categories.
When it finished don’t put laminate back it’s not suitable for wet areas.
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