Fused spur or unfused?

[Foxy787]

Hi everyone

I am hoping for a bit of advice

So I'm wanting to install another socket with the dining room area so I'm hoping to install a spur.

However i bought this house 5 years ago and as far as I was aware the circuit is a radial circuit but when I had a look behind some of the sockets in the kitchen they are have 2 legs going into back of them which makes me believe they have done a ring main in the kitchen and dining only and radial rest of house

The consumer unit has 2 cables going to a 32 amp fuse for the sockets then lighting etc is run of 6amp fuses with only one wire going into that

Am I okay to run a unused spur of of this socket or a fuse spur then onto a socket?

The socket I'm installing is to power the open reach WiFi router and I also have an outdoor weatherproof socket with an rcd plug on that to plug into my potential spurred socket

Just to keep things simple is it safe enough to keep the spur unfused or fused?

 

[Foxy787]

When making the channel I also came across where i think they commented into the old radial circuit using connector blocks and just seemed to plaster over it. Should I place a terminal box here?

 

[Murdochcat]

Passing cables horizontally behind skirting boards is NOT advisable

 

[Foxy787]

Hi thanks for replying but for what reason is it not advisable as the cable is inside trunking protecting it.
Is it in case someone decides to nail into the skirting?

 

[Murdochcat]

Look up safe zones

 

[robinbanks]

when I had a look behind some of the sockets in the kitchen they are have 2 legs going into back of them which makes me believe they have done a ring main in the kitchen and dining only and radial rest of house

I don't follow your logic, as taking a random socket face off in a house will highly likely reveal two cables regardless of whether it's a ring or radial

If it used 2.5mm² cables it would likely be a ring. If it used 4mm² it would likely be a radial.
A better assessment of ring/radial would be made by counting the number of cables leaving the fuse/mcb/rcbo rather than at a socket

 

[Foxy787]

Regardless of safe zones the cable is still gona be staying behind the skirting board simple as that

I doubt anyone will put any nails that low

Be more of a hazard if the cable was in the safe zone half way up the wall where ppl hang pictures and TVs etc so imo ut much more safer behind the board

 

[Scally-Ho]

Regardless of safe zones the cable is still gona be staying behind the skirting board simple as that

I doubt anyone will put any nails that low

Be more of a hazard if the cable was in the safe zone half way up the wall where ppl hang pictures and TVs etc so imo ut much more safer behind the board

Drop the cable(s) beneath the floor and keep the installation safe. . you know it makes sense

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

I don't follow your logic, as taking a random socket face off in a house will highly likely reveal two cables regardless of whether it's a ring or radial

If it used 2.5mm² cables it would likely be a ring. If it used 4mm² it would likely be a radial.
A better assessment of ring/radial would be made by counting the number of cables leaving the fuse/mcb/rcbo rather than at a socket

Neither checking at the MCB, nor at the socket, will definitely confirm it is a ring - The only reasonable way to be reasonably certain it is a ring, is by checking continuity between them, when the two conductors of an assumed ring, are separated. Even that method, is not absolutely fool-proof.

 

[pete01]

Regardless of safe zones the cable is still gona be staying behind the skirting board simple as that

Don't be surprised if the electrical police turn up after that comment

 

[Foxy787]

What's the best thing to do with these cables that the previous ppl had jus plastered into the wall?

 

[SUNRAY]

What's the best thing to do with these cables that the previous ppl had jus plastered into the wall?

Long reply deleted due to OP's lack of interest in accepting relevent advice

 

[Murdochcat]

Regardless of safe zones the cable is still gona be staying behind the skirting board simple as that

I doubt anyone will put any nails that low

Be more of a hazard if the cable was in the safe zone half way up the wall where ppl hang pictures and TVs etc so imo ut much more safer behind the board

You can lead a horse to water but not make it drink

 

[Foxy787]

So you think having the cables half way up the walls where they are more likely to get hit with nails yeah okay

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

So you think having the cables half way up the walls where they are more likely to get hit with nails yeah okay

Not really much point, in seeking advice on here then..