Gas Care how does it work?

[john320d]

Does an engineer keep the same registeration number?

Can a company have a gas care registeration number and can unregistered fitters use it?

Can an unregistered fitter have his work signed off by a registered one?.

I am a retired heating eng. and I am puzzled by the jobsheets that the service engineers leave with me. They don't know their inputs from their outputs. Their stock answer on the jobsheet is 12kw. I have used the same company that fitted the boiler to carry out the servicing for the guarantee period. The boiler is sweated in and is generally a shabby job. It is out of guarantee now and feel that I had a raw deal. I have kept quiet until now to maintain some goodwill. One guy has now got a different number to the one he had five years ago, is this possible?

 

[Steelmasons]

Registration number remains the same although license number changes annually.

 

[Elkato531]

Engineers may not have their own registration so are covered by the companies registration number, hence different guys using the same number. They should, however, have their own licence number which is shown on their card which also details the appliances they are qualified to work on.

 

[john320d]

which number do they put on their jobsheet.

 

[Elkato531]

Depends how the job sheet is worded and laid out. I have space for both registration number and licence number on mine. I think I'd expect to see either with a sole trader and both where there is more than one registered person on the payroll. So long as you have the company registration and the engineers name, you should able to check with gas safe if they are legit.

 

[john320d]

Does a service engineer have further qualifications? My experience with this company is that they are installers posing as service engineers. One of them was doing a gas count while the boiler was modulating.

 

[Steelmasons]

One of them was doing a gas count while the boiler was modulating.

As a retired "heating engineer" I would have thought that you would of installed the boiler and had a gas safe engineer sign it off (obviously you know a few RGI's being in the trade)..
Why all the questions considering your background??..I would of thought if you weren't happy with the boiler install then these guys would have been thrown out and told not to come back?
What's a gas count?....why didn't you pull him up regarding the burner modulation?
Me thinks my daughter knows more about the heating industry than you do....I reckon you're talking shyte..retired heating engineer my arze....

 

[john320d]

Nice chap, I did not do it myself because I am 80 yrs old. I do not know any RGIs. I have been out of the trade for over 20years. Gas count, I could not think of the right terminology for checking how many cubic mtrs per hour at the meter. I did pull him up about checking the meter readings while the boiler was modulating, he then rang his boss because he did not know what I was talking about. FYI I have been in the trade since I was 17yrs old. started at G N Hadens and became a pipe fitter/welder, then chargehand then foreman, then contracts manager, started my own company and my last job was a 2 year contract in London. Retired in 1990 but still interested in the trade in general. I replied to you without being rude or nasty. I was sorely tempted to give you a piece of my mind but I did not want to drop to your level. Have a nice day.

 

[Steelmasons]

Hey John , reading your previous threads/questions it stands out like a sore thumb that you were either not a very good heating engineer or you are talking BS...
My old man would be the same age as you and he certainly wouldn't be asking the sort of questions you ask being a time served heating engineer..
Feel free to give me a piece of your mind..
If there's one thing that gets my goat it's BS.

 

[AGAS]

 

[john320d]

The thing is most people on here would be domestic heating engineers. I was industrial and commercial and was not involved in houses. The larger companies had heating engineers who specialised in assembling cast iron boilers usually in basements. I did a stint at that at Manchester University buildings like, Williamson, and the Refectory Block, and the Students Union.I spent a couple of summers in their basements in my late teens and early twenties. Then back up top fitting hospital type rads and FCUs. I have only worked at three companies and never had the sack, so I reckon that I was not too bad at my job. Now put a domestic heating engineer into that environment and I think some of them would feel a little bit lost. I would not try and belittle a domestic engineer because he was not familiar with that line of work.Been nice reminiscing. Now over to you.

 

[AGAS]

Steel masons , he does work on commercial so he's your man just some of your questioning of basic gas works which questioned your experience

 

[john320d]

Boilers that were assembled on site had their burners commissioned by the burner supplier, so not our areas of expertise.

 

[Steelmasons]

Interesting..What make of boilers were you assembling John??..burner manufacturer??
Remind me , how were those boiler sections mated together.
Did those "hospital rads" (column type) come assembled or were they delivered in sections?
BTW John , it was you who stated that you're a 'heating engineer" (now retired) , whether commercial or domestic the principle remains the same.
You were asking for advise in previous threads about "gunge in expansion tank"..."why should air be collecting in radiator closest to pump"....C'mon now...
Surprising you weren't sacked from all those 3 companies you "supposedly" worked for..

 

[Aquaheat]

I think you may be over stretching yourself and not really endearing yourself to the members of this forum John. There are very many of us on here that have many years of experience in both the domestic and commercial side of this trade. Not just in gas but also, oil, steam, coal, biomass, solar, heat pumps etc etc.

You say you were a heating engineer yet never set up a burner? Never fault found either? Did you have any experience with any form of combustion or did you just install? That makes you a pipefitter or as most commonly known "a grunt" That is a world away from being a heating engineer. Nothing wrong with being a grunt, it's where I started 20 years ago and worked my way down to domestic. Many a day was spent pumping out a coal bunker to change a worm! The difference is most of us on here broadened our careers to understand all aspects of the industry.

Jon