Gas fire help please.

[bigscottyuk]

Good morning. The domestic controller wants the old gas fire in our lounge gone. Probably to be replaced with a bioethanol stove (wood burner too expensive. I won that battle ).

Please can anyone help me understand what's currently installed?
Is the connection at the wall an isolation valve? (See attached pics). Thanks.

 

[CBW]

It’s a restrictor elbow and can close the gas off, but don’t think it’s classed as an isolation valve.

 

[flameport]

. The domestic controller wants the old gas fire in our lounge gone.

Gas safe registered person required.

 

[gas112]

15 MIN for qualified guy to do , remove the whole lot including restrictor elbow

 

[jurassic sparkk]

You could get it capped off.
Still will need a corgi.

 

[ianmcd]

You could get it capped off.
Still will need a corgi.

Good luck finding one of them

 

[CBW]

Good luck finding one of them

Found a Welsh one:

 

[bigscottyuk]

All done. Wrapped in Denso tape and filled with expanding foam, filler to finish off. I have marked the position of the pipe on the skirting board. Any great ideas for marking it on the wall future reference?

 

[jj4091]

Aren't you supposed to isolate them at the supply end, no need for warnings then.

 

[Madrab]

Best practice would see the gas pipe cut back at the branch off the main supply pipe.

Always easier to cut it at the outlet end but could cause tracing issues later if there was a gas leak.

 

[FiremanT]

Best practice would see the gas pipe cut back at the branch off the main supply pipe.

Always easier to cut it at the outlet end but could cause tracing issues later if there was a gas leak.

Until recently pretty much every house had a live gas point, sometimes concealed by plasterboard in front of builders opening / flue box.
On modernish houses you will never find the supppy Tee, and if high did it would be a fairly significant job

 

[FiremanT]

Good morning. The domestic controller wants the old gas fire in our lounge gone. Probably to be replaced with a bioethanol stove (wood burner too expensive. I won that battle ).

Please can anyone help me understand what's currently installed?
Is the connection at the wall an isolation valve? (See attached pics). Thanks.

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Have you considered the cost of bio fuel - as far as I can see it is at least 50p per Kw, bought in small bulk.

 

[Madrab]

Until recently pretty much every house had a live gas point, sometimes concealed by plasterboard in front of builders opening / flue box.
On modernish houses you will never find the supppy Tee, and if high did it would be a fairly significant job

Last gas leak I went to was exactly that. Leak was found after 3 hours of tracing pipework and was found on the old gas fire supply that was tee'd off the main supply and had been capped under the floor beside the builders opening, where the restrictor had been. It was eventually found under a loose floorboard at the lounge door, where a badly clipped pipe had been moving and eventually cracked a joint. The branch was found under floor at the meter and was cut and capped at that point.

Tend to find a lot of the old properties up here are like that and the branch to a fire/cooker is found nearer the meter.

 

[FiremanT]

Last gas leak I went to was exactly that. Leak was found after 3 hours of tracing pipework and was found on the old gas fire supply that was tee'd off the main supply and had been capped under the floor beside the builders opening, where the restrictor had been. It was eventually found under a loose floorboard at the lounge door, where a badly clipped pipe had been moving and eventually cracked a joint. The branch was found under floor at the meter and was cut and capped at that point.

Tend to find a lot of the old properties up here are like that and the branch to a fire/cooker is found nearer the meter.

I was referring more to newer houses that tend to have screeded floors or suspended (?) a couple of inches of concrete, the floor being large chipboard sheets.

I would suspect that if a joint failed it was badly made in the go rust place.

 

[bigscottyuk]

Have you considered the cost of bio fuel - as far as I can see it is at least 50p per Kw, bought in small bulk.

Room has a large radiator already. The bioethanol stove will be 90% decorative.