Gas flue modification carried out without permission!

[Agile]

A helpful neighbour would discuss modifications of someone else's property - with the owner of that property - before carrying out a potentially life-threatening modification, surely?

I am sorry to disappoint you but unfortunately you seem unable to see the whole picture!

Your parents never had any right to discharge their flue over your neighbours land.

The neighbour has every right to do anything they like on their land like building a shed.

Certainly the neighbours were not qualified to modify the flue but thats not relevant, it should never have been there in the first place.

I have no axe to grind and I only look at the situation as you describe it. Its just the kind of ironeous argument my Mother would have used.

Tony

 

[DeeDee08]

Frankly it didn't occur to us to do that - Transco were called as it seemed dangerous to leave the boiler with the flue inside a shed. They agreed it was unsafe and disconnected it. At the time I was worried for my parents' safety. I'm not a lawyer or accustomed to issues like this so didn't consider calling in anyone else at the time.

 

[GasMan1965]

Gasman65 and deedee apologies mr stupid here was reading it as they not only messed about with original flue but also the new one. Not even had a drink

No probs buddy

 

[heatingman]

GM1965, the op is proberly referring to the s/e as the "BG inspector" his report would only be regarded as an opinion. For a proper report the incident has to be investigated by one of the TM's from the guilded tower.

 

[DeeDee08]

Of course the neighbour has a right to build a shed - on their land. However they attached it to my parents house and in so doing enclosed the flue to the boiler. I think my argument is sound, but you are not seeing the full picture.
If they had not attached the shed to my parents' house this situation would not have arisen, irrespective of the legality of the flue, which was never questioned by British Gas in the years they insured the appliance and inspected it.

 

[gremlin16]

namsag

The new boiler is sited elsewhere.

so where's the new flue terminated?

 

[GasMan1965]

A helpful neighbour would discuss modifications of someone else's property - with the owner of that property - before carrying out a potentially life-threatening modification, surely?

I am sorry to disappoint you but unfortunately you seem unable to see the whole picture!

Your parents never had any right to discharge their flue over your neighbours land.

The neighbour has every right to do anything they like on their land like building a shed.

Certainly the neighbours were not qualified to modify the flue but thats not relevant, it should never have been there in the first place.

I have no axe to grind and I only look at the situation as you describe it. Its just the kind of ironeous argument my Mother would have used.

Tony

They had NO RIGHT to attach the said shed to her parents wall

 

[DeeDee08]

The new flue terminates above a side door and discharges over my parents' land.

 

[ChrisR]

You trespassed by putting the flue there (civil matter) maybe
They caused criminal damage by touching it maybe
They caused criminal damage to your wall maybe
They trespassed into your property, if it's back from the boundary, and into your wall maybe
Someone, if he wasn't Corgi registered, was in breach of the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations (Treated as a civil matter by the HSE)
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1998/19982451.htm
If he WAS corgi registered, he's still in breach of same because of the way he's done what he has.

WHat would I do about it?
Legally nothing
but - burn down the ***** shed, with a good alibi, maybe

 

[GasMan1965]

GM1965, the op is proberly referring to the s/e as the "BG inspector" his report would only be regarded as an opinion. For a proper report the incident has to be investigated by one of the TM's from the guilded tower.

Ahhh cheers

 

[gremlin16]

namsag wrote:
Gasman65 and deedee apologies mr stupid here was reading it as they not only messed about with original flue but also the new one. Not even had a drink

dont think they messed with new flue

Think you need a drink now

 

[GasMan1965]

You trespassed by putting the flue there (civil matter) maybe
They caused criminal damage by touching it maybe
They caused criminal damage to your wall maybe
They trespassed into your property, if it's back from the boundary, and into your wall maybe
Someone, if he wasn't Corgi registered, was in breach of the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations (Treated as a civil matter by the HSE)
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1998/19982451.htm
If he WAS corgi registered, he's still in breach of same because of the way he's done what he has.

WHat would I do about it?
Legally nothing
but - burn down the ***** shed, with a good alibi, maybe

 

[gremlin16]

Has anyone thought about putting this on neighbours from hell

 

[heatingman]

OK what if the neighbour placed a free standing shed, right up against the flue.
1. The boiler would keep cutting out.
2. Eventually someone would spot the shed.
3. The boiler gets cut-off and labelled.
4. Your parents have no heating/hot water.
5. Your parents would have to finance alterations.
6. The free standing shed stays where it is.

Unable to comment on the wall, don't know if its a party/boundary wall, thats what the solicitors are trying to find out.

So its ok for you to shove a 4/5" flue terminal out of wall and discharge fumes into neighbours property but he can't put a few 2"/10 screws into the wall.

 

[ChrisR]

Certainly the neighbours were not qualified to modify the flue but thats not relevant, it should never have been there in the first place.

Piffle! Of course it's relevant. If my neighbour drives home drunk and parks in my drive and gets into bed with my wife, I STILL don't have the right to bash his car about.
SO - what would I do about it? Nothing, legally, but he'd "fall down stairs", break his neck, and there wouldn't be a problem any more.


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