Gate hinges hook and band?

[Ruggers]

I bought some hook and band gate hinges cranked and the hinge is loose on the pin so the gate would drop if fitted. I did read screwfix reviews and people complaining about this so ordered from another site but same problem. are they always like this or just poorly made?


http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Ironmongery/Gate Hinges/Hook & Band Hinge Cranked/d170/sd3274/p92939

 

[Burnerman]

I've found that they are all a bit like that to some degree.....I offset the crook and band to accommodate this and keep them greased which minimises movement after fitting.
I was also taught to install one crook upside down to stop the door / gate from being nicked....I don't know if this is still practiced!
John

 

[gregers]

I was also taught to install one crook upside down to stop the door / gate from being nicked....I don't know if this is still practiced!

yep

 

[Ruggers]

I have seen them fitted opposite ways on to prevent this. Or if used on a door the door should normally be fitted into a rebated frame then it could only be lifted off when the doors are open.

Would they not just be able to remove the 4 screws securing the hook plate anyway because I think it has to be fitted to the outside of a door frame if using the cranked hinge?

When you say offset looking at them face on, do you mean move them up or down from the horizontal level position to counter the play in them?

 

[Burnerman]

It was very much against my principles never to mount anything out of square, but I had the doors packed up exactly in place, and then marked out the crook position first (ever so slightly off the vertical) and then fixed the band accordingly.
The end result was fine, no one really noticed anything - apart from me!
Anyway, there was no other way that I could see.
The bands were 24" galvanised, and heavy gauge steel.
The crooks are made thief proof by incorporating one bolt either in the centre, or through one of the screw holes.
John

 

[Ruggers]

I think I will have to do the same as they are all loose fit and obviously I cant have my doors sitting at an angle. It just means the 50mm wide hook bracket will need to be mounted to a frame now wider than 50mm to accommodate the angle it's kicked over to. this is how it might have to go.

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• Ruggers
• 27 Jul 2013
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