"Heatprofile" radiant skirting heaters - any exper

[dazzlevw]

Hello all,
First post here...although I suspect I may be around for a while, I've just bought my first house which needs totally renovating.

Does anyone have any experience with the skirting type heaters made by heatprofile? As the house needs a full central heating install I'm weighing up all of my options.

I'd go for the wet system, but is it up to the job of acting as the primary heat source in the house?

I've considered underfloor, both wet and electric, but having seen the heatprofile system it seems like an excellent idea.

If anyone has any advice or comments, good or bad....please shout up!!

Thanks

Daz

 

[JohnD]

If you are in the UK, Gas fired CH will be much cheaper to run than electric heating.

I didn't understand your question "I'd go for the wet system, but is it up to the job of acting as the primary heat source in the house?" My gas boiler has 22kW output which is approx equivalent to 100 Amps of electric heating. I know someone with a big house who has a 55kW output gas boiler.

 

[dazzlevw]

thanks john,
I was intending to go for the wet system driven by a gas fired combi/condensing combi, having looked at the various electric and wet systems, I would tend to agree with you.

I'll be needing a new boiler anyhow so will be a good time to get a good efficient unit.

 

[JohnD]

I see it is a kind of skirting radiator, can be run on CH water or electric, the wet one has an output of up to 180 watts/metre, looks all right, have no experience of it but seen a similar system in offices.

 

[nstreet]

I considered using it in our lounge as we have low windows cills. I was put off by the cost though and went the conventional radiator route.

 

[ChrisR]

Anyone got any prices? Can't find it in a list.
You'd need quite a lot of it for a standard room...

 

[Biggles..]

have a look at a company called bisque (located in Bath i think) they do some very nice skirting style radiators.The flow form ones look and work superbly.

 

[Agile]

I seem to remember that Myson sold it before they were bought out by Potty.

I think its a wonderful system BUT the heat output is only 180 w/m of wall space.

You also need underfloor access to provide continuity across doorways.

In my view its an under utilised resource although there are relatively few properties where the limited heat output will be adequate. Usually intermediate floors only.

Tony

 

[dazzlevw]

have a look at a company called bisque (located in Bath i think) they do some very nice skirting style radiators.The flow form ones look and work superbly.

Yeah they are nice, but I'm still drawn by the aesthetic advantages of underfloor or skirting heating, ie no obvious source of heat

I seem to remember that Myson sold it before they were bought out by Potty.

I think its a wonderful system BUT the heat output is only 180 w/m of wall space.

You also need underfloor access to provide continuity across doorways.

In my view its an under utilised resource although there are relatively few properties where the limited heat output will be adequate. Usually intermediate floors only.

Tony

True, in our living room, say 3m x 4m that would give out just over 2.5kW. I've not got as far as heat loss calculations yet so I don't know if that is enough.

The other thing I've noticed about it is that the 180 W/m is at 80 degrees C flow temp, is that not quite high?

Some of the underfloor systems I've looked at suggest a flow of only 50 degrees thus allowing the boiler to run cooler.

I initially started by looking at wet underfloor systems but came across this skirting system whilst googling and it seems like less hassle to install and cheaper......but then if it doesn't heat as well.....you get's what you pays for I suppose!!

Do you think I'd be better using this in the first floor bedrooms and going for a wet underfloor system downstairs?

 

[ChrisR]

You need to start with the heat loss calcs.
With UFH at 70 - 100 W/m² ...

 

[dazzlevw]

yeah I'll work out the heat losses once we actually get in there, just fishing for general opinions/ideas at the moment

 

[Agile]

That skirting rad is based on "old" ratings of a 80 C flow. For a condensing boiler you need to derate it by about 20% !

Under floor has a maximum flow temp of 50 C derived from a mixing system. All the systems I have seen have had a maximum output of 70 w/m2 or less.

In my view UFH is unsuitable for small rooms and in any case a 3 m x 4 m room will give a maximum of 840 w.

Tony

 

[ChrisR]

I think it was one of the Polypipe options which went to 100, with dense pipes obviously.
Depends on the floor construction, can't use all types on all floors.

There's something about skirting heating which works well, perhaps because it heats the walls up so you don't feel the cold radiating at you. I've noticed it in flats with surface pipework.
Perhaps we need electric paint or gas fired wallpaper...

 

[fitz1]

fitted it in a ground floor flat living room. it can be a swine to fit if your corners are not square and your walls are not straight.Took two of us a day to fit 16 m.

 

[Agile]

Tommy has replied to a three year old posting thread!

I like it and think its under rated.

Since its based on 22 mm tube noise should never be an issue when corrected filled and set up.

The only disadvantage is that furniture cannot be fitted quite so close to a wall but so what.

As an absolute minimum it should be fitted on all the outside walls. Probably on some internal ones as well to machieve the required heat output.

Tony