help with down-lighters
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Depends, are you on the top floor or a middle floor?
If your on the top floor have you looked at the d/ls from the attic space?
Some d/ls are fire rated and come in a fixed case. D/ls between floors of seperate occupation must be fire rated. So if your light fails it doesn't cause a fire in your (above) neighbours property.
Where you occupy the top floor, in the attic air space is required around the light fitting. If (and there should be) there's 150-250mm of insulation in the attic then cowls should be fabricated to prevent the insulation sitting on the lights and creating an 'over heating' situation.
If your on the top floor have you looked at the d/ls from the attic space?
Some d/ls are fire rated and come in a fixed case. D/ls between floors of seperate occupation must be fire rated. So if your light fails it doesn't cause a fire in your (above) neighbours property.
Where you occupy the top floor, in the attic air space is required around the light fitting. If (and there should be) there's 150-250mm of insulation in the attic then cowls should be fabricated to prevent the insulation sitting on the lights and creating an 'over heating' situation.
Im on middle floor, should there be separate heat deflectors from the down lights? would you be able to give me a description so i can check myself? Im a bit of a novice!
I heard on the grapevine that the company who installed the electrics are being sued by another building firm for not fitting heat deflectors.
Cheers for your help
I heard on the grapevine that the company who installed the electrics are being sued by another building firm for not fitting heat deflectors.
Cheers for your help
They should be fire rated or have fire hoods, deflectors are used to avoid insulation sitting directly on the light fitting.
Fire rated style
They have a full metal jacket as fire protection
Fire hoods
In a fire situation the cover expands internally to fill all the available space with a highly insulating fire resistant char. Thus, the fire is unable to penetrate the hole and the cover is able to give additional insulation protection to the ceiling void to reduce the chance of heat build up and ignition of flammable materials such as accumulated dust and insulation.
Prevents fire from penetrating the ceiling void and retains ceiling's fire protection integrity
Covers a wide range of mains & low voltage downlighters
Ventilated to reduce heat build up
Installed in seconds
No screws, drilling or additional supported required
Maintenance free
Can be used in suspended, plasterboard or concrete ceilings
Lightweight & flexible cover can be fitted from below or above the ceiling
Once fitted down lighter can be fitted as normal
Provides a highly insulating stable char when exposed to fire
Deflector / loft brace
Keeps air around the fitting when insulation blankets installed
Fire rated style
They have a full metal jacket as fire protection
Fire hoods
In a fire situation the cover expands internally to fill all the available space with a highly insulating fire resistant char. Thus, the fire is unable to penetrate the hole and the cover is able to give additional insulation protection to the ceiling void to reduce the chance of heat build up and ignition of flammable materials such as accumulated dust and insulation.
Prevents fire from penetrating the ceiling void and retains ceiling's fire protection integrity
Covers a wide range of mains & low voltage downlighters
Ventilated to reduce heat build up
Installed in seconds
No screws, drilling or additional supported required
Maintenance free
Can be used in suspended, plasterboard or concrete ceilings
Lightweight & flexible cover can be fitted from below or above the ceiling
Once fitted down lighter can be fitted as normal
Provides a highly insulating stable char when exposed to fire
Deflector / loft brace
Keeps air around the fitting when insulation blankets installed
That's a very broad statement and not true. For instance, the JCC Fireguard fittings are open-backed but are fire-rated as they have an intumescent seal that is part of the fitting.
See http://www.jcc-lighting.co.uk/products/interior/downlights/lv+halogen+downlights/fireguard/jc94003
JJ, can you pull down one of the fittings and post on here the maker and model number.
In properties like yours the fittings must be fire-rated, to prevent the spread of fire from one apartment to the other. It doesnt matter what floor you are on.
Each flat is built as a self-contained fire-compartment.
Thanks for pi55ing on my post.
While your right to offer your advice (and correct mine) your not telling complete truths.
A top floor flat has no need for fire rated lights, since the floor above is empty. If the top floor interconnects groups of flats then it does, a single top floor flat does not.
Originally the poster didn't mention his floor position of his flat.
In easy English 90% of FR D/ lights are metal jacket construction. If you wish from now on should I start posting every available make and manufacture, since my generalisation doesn't seem to sit well with you and you have corrected me as if I've made an error. I haven't- for ease of post I dared to generalise.
Sorry, but read your post- It comes across as if you think my advice is totally wrong and I'm not (overly) happy about that
While your right to offer your advice (and correct mine) your not telling complete truths.
A top floor flat has no need for fire rated lights, since the floor above is empty. If the top floor interconnects groups of flats then it does, a single top floor flat does not.
Originally the poster didn't mention his floor position of his flat.
In easy English 90% of FR D/ lights are metal jacket construction. If you wish from now on should I start posting every available make and manufacture, since my generalisation doesn't seem to sit well with you and you have corrected me as if I've made an error. I haven't- for ease of post I dared to generalise.
Sorry, but read your post- It comes across as if you think my advice is totally wrong and I'm not (overly) happy about that
You're very grumpy today Chri5. Bad day at the office?
Anyhoo, as a neutral supporter here, I don't think TTC was having a go, more just mentioning about the type of DL with loads of holes in the top.
Chin up lad
Anyhoo, as a neutral supporter here, I don't think TTC was having a go, more just mentioning about the type of DL with loads of holes in the top.
Chin up lad
Thanks. I just an image of the OP sueing the builder and then finding that the downlights were FR after all.
People p!55 on my posts all the time,
I always look forward to B.A.S. having a bad day.....
People p!55 on my posts all the time,
I always look forward to B.A.S. having a bad day.....
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