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How does immigration benefit the country when...

Vote Reform if you want trickle down economics.

Reform would cut taxes for the rich and slash public services which ordinary citizens rely on.


Nigel Farage: “Liz Truss, best budget since 1986”
Notch bangs on about how bad brexit is --- and yet he voted for it
bangs on a bout immigrants -- and lives in a little white village
Bangs on about the rich -- and lives in a 1M+ house
He hasn’t got a clue about what its like in the real world.
 
We'd have ended up like Japan. Not the worst outcome in the world, but not the best either. But if we'd have continued the post-war immigration policies rather than throw the doors open to the most backwards cultures on Earth, and now to literally anybody who rocks up on our beaches, things would be immeasurably better.
Japan is having similar problems - got another example?
 
Notch bangs on about how bad brexit is --- and yet he voted for it
bangs on a bout immigrants -- and lives in a little white village
Bangs on about the rich -- and lives in a 1M+ house
He hasn’t got a clue about what its like in the real world.
Aveatry what did Nigel Farage say about Liz Truss budget

Here is a clue:

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Aveatry please talk us through how slashing taxes for the rich helps you
 
If Reform get in and stay true to their promises, some folk are going to be in for a shock, including some who vote for them.

I can picture Larry the racist layabout now. He voted Reform to get all foreign and ideally all non white folk out the country.

One day, a letter pops through his letter box. It's from the DWP, titled 'Getting the Country Back to Work.'

Larry has been advised in the letter there's a care home job waiting for him. He can accept the job, or reject it. If he rejects it, his benefits will be cut by 50%.

Larry is so excited to start his new, still relatively low paid job, in the care home.

:)
OMG this is exactly what labour are announcing today
 
Aveatry is a massive Reform fan

but is too much of a coward to admit it
Listen - I dont know how many times I have to tell you - I dont give a sh1t about reform. Nor do I care for the cons for that matter.
 
So why, be so defensive of them?
I'm not. I simply like to point out the illogical and unbalanced stances that are often taken, regardless of whether it's on one side of the debate or the other.

Example. A politician or talking head is on a tv prog. They're asked about people on benefits and assert 'No one on benefits actually wants to be on benefits.' The assertion is 100% of people on benefits would rather be working. Logic tells you, or should tell you, that is not true. Actually, it's a downright stupid assertion to make.

The same illogical and unbalanced stances crop up everywhere, including immigration. e.g. trying to focus the blame of multiple things on immigrants, when logically it simply can't be true, certainly not to the extent asserted by some.

So it's nothing to do with defending this group or that, just pointing out stuff I consider to be wrong in whatever way.
 
Listen - I dont know how many times I have to tell you - I dont give a sh1t about reform. Nor do I care for the cons for that matter.
yet you spew their tropes out with random precision like a pinko faragista with a bad hair-do.
Why?
 
yet you spew their tropes out with random precision like a pinko faragista with a bad hair-do.
Why?
No I dont- go and see if you can find one --- without your totally dishonest quote editing
 
The same illogical and unbalanced stances crop up everywhere, including immigration. e.g. trying to focus the blame of multiple things on immigrants, when logically it simply can't be true, certainly not to the extent asserted by some.


Same goes for the "argument" that "one kid abused is one too many".
Regarding which, I wholeheartedly agree.

BUT, categorising an entire group of people based on the possible actions of a small number...................there's a word for that ;-)
 
Notch bangs on about how bad brexit is --- and yet he voted for it
bangs on a bout immigrants -- and lives in a little white village
Bangs on about the rich -- and lives in a 1M+ house
He hasn’t got a clue about what its like in the real world.

For the most part that is my own situation, but I can and do live in the real world.
 
No I dont- go and see if you can find one --- without your totally dishonest quote editing


Magic wand / wishlist time then: what do you actually want for the UK?

What do you actually want for the people of the UK?

And on what timescale?



I doubt any party is exactly aligned with any of our "wants", hence we should select the "best fit" (regardless of the name on the tin).

Failure to do that makes one nothing but a tribal voter.

Failure to vote for any makes one, by default, accepting of the status quo.
 
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