ICE told to get the eff out

[MNW67]

Ask yourself if he had probable cause (you might want to google that first) to believe the objective was to cause an obstruction, giving him grounds to stop her.

We went through all this yesterday. You are just repeating yourself yet again. I had looked into all this days before you even joined the discussion.

So, to clarify yet again.

You are saying that there is no evidence so far of Renee causing any actual obstruction.

But you believe the arrest was lawful, because the agent had probable cause to believe that Renee wanted to cause an obstruction. Even though she wasn't actually causing one.

 

[motorbiking]

We went through all this yesterday. You are just repeating yourself yet again. I had looked into all this days before you even joined the discussion.

So, to clarify yet again.

You are saying that there is no evidence so far of Renee causing any actual obstruction.

But you believe the arrest was lawful, because the agent had probable cause to believe that Renee wanted to cause an obstruction. Even though she wasn't actually causing one.

You’ve imagined this.
Most independent analysis has accepted she was causing an obstruction even for a moment and it was her intention to do so. There are also plenty of LEO opinion that says the shooting was justified.

I hold the view that I am suspicious he put himself into a position where could justify shooting.

 

[MNW67]

Most independent analysis has accepted she was causing an obstruction even for a moment and it was her intention to do so.

Desperate.

 

[morqthana]

For those who cannot see the big picture, Trump's USA is hurtling towards authoritarianism. All in plain sight.

There are quite a few people here who can see the big picture.

But the trouble is that they love what they see - they absolutely love it. They pretend to be defenders of democracy and then get all moist over somebody destroying it.

 

[motorbiking]

Desperate.

Delusional

 

[morqthana]

masked gunmen murder innocent woman.

How far is that from the truth?

 

[Highway Man]

But you believe the arrest was lawful, because the agent had probable cause to believe that Renee wanted to cause an obstruction. Even though she wasn't actually causing one.

I cause an havoc most days in my cherry picker, I am parked as tight as I can get into the side of the road. If I parked in the middle of it I would imagine I would be obstructing the road

 

[morqthana]

If only the investigators were as clever as you.

The ones who are have been blocked from investigating.

 

[Highway Man]

The ones who are have been blocked from investigating.

I think you will find the FBI might have a different opinion to you regards that comment.

 

[MNW67]

Exactly my point, this is all about Trump to you, never mind the fact that her dog would have been frightened to death. Shame on you.

I was commenting on the massive story going on in America about Trump trying to lock up his political opponents, simply for criticising his policies. That is a classic sign of an authoritarian. You brought Renee, Becca and the dog into it, not me.

 

[noseall]

It is of course regulated. Just yesterday a federal judge imposed lawful restrictions on their powers.

So prior to yesterdays' ruling, ICE were lawless and and unrestricted.

 

[Highway Man]

I was commenting on the massive story going on in America about Trump trying to lock up his political opponents, simply for criticising his policies. That is a classic sign of an authoritarian. You brought Renee, Becca and the dog into it, not me.

If I had a problem with ICE (I don't) I would be protesting against them in a totally different way. I wouldn't be getting shot or put my dog and wife in that position either. I noticed you mentioned the ladies names but failed to mention the dogs name. Heartless

 

[Highway Man]

 

[Highway Man]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009679932289626385

 

[MNW67]

If I had a problem with ICE (I don't) I would be protesting against them in a totally different way. I wouldn't be getting shot or put my dog and wife in that position either. I noticed you mentioned the ladies names but failed to mention the dogs name. Heartless

If Keir Starmer tried to imprison Nigel Farage for criticising the policing of the asylum hotel protests, would you object. That is what Trump is doing. It is an absolutely massive story. There are many different strands to the ICE story. I realise it is difficult to keep a track of them all. That is why I have been separating them out and addressing them all objectively.