ICE told to get the eff out

[motorbiking]

I have no idea what you are on about there. It sounds like deflection.

They are referring to "Withholding tax". I pay withholding tax and have to complete something called a W8-BEN, every year to reduce the rate. It is nonsense to lump the taxes I pay, in with those paid by illegals. I am a foreign national who does not live or work in the US. But pays US income taxes.

But do you at least accept that there is a system in the USA, called ITIN, for illegal immigrants to pay income tax.

Read the IRS link I posted not the campaign blog of a lobby group.

what are the consequences for employers who deduct withholding taxes on pay for people with no right to work or live in the US.

its not rocket science to see you'd be daft to have them on your books.

 

[motorbiking]

OMG!!!!!

This is so straight forward. Sorry to do this again. But you are being so ridiculous.

'how do illegal migrants pay income tax in the usa'

AI Overview

Undocumented immigrants pay U.S. income tax primarily by using an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) issued by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).
The IRS requires all individuals earning income in the U.S. to pay taxes, regardless of their immigration status. Since undocumented immigrants are ineligible for Social Security Numbers (SSNs), the IRS created the ITIN program in 1996 to ensure tax compliance from this population.

you really have to start clicking the links and checking the sources.

"The IRS requires all individuals earning income in the U.S. to pay taxes,"

that includes me.
- Don't live in the US
- Don't work in the US
- Do generate income in the US.

every singly person who has USD, US stock trading accounts pays withholding tax on Dividends..

I can confirm I am not a Somali living illegally in Minnesota

 

[MNW67]

You need a name change to AI instead of 67.

I know. I'm sorry. But I don't know how else to deal with somebody who will say black is white because he is pathologically unable to accept he has ever made a mistake.

 

[noseall]

you really have to start clicking the links and checking the sources.

"The IRS requires all individuals earning income in the U.S. to pay taxes,"

that include me.
- Don't live in the US
- Don't work in the US
- Do generate income in the US.

every singly person who has USD, US stock trading accounts pays withholding tax on Dividends..

I can confirm I am not a Somali living illegally in Minnesota

• Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local governments.
• Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local taxes of $8,889 per person in 2022. In other words, for every 1 million undocumented immigrants who reside in the country, public services receive $8.9 billion in additional tax revenue.
• More than a third of the tax dollars paid by undocumented immigrants go toward payroll taxes dedicated to funding programs that these workers are barred from accessing. Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7 billion in Social Security taxes, $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and $1.8 billion in unemployment insurance taxes in 2022.
• At the state and local levels, slightly less than half (46 percent, or $15.1 billion) of the tax payments made by undocumented immigrants are through sales and excise taxes levied on their purchases. Most other payments are made through property taxes, such as those levied on homeowners and renters (31 percent, or $10.4 billion), or through personal and business income taxes (21 percent, or $7.0 billion).
• Six states raised more than $1 billion each in tax revenue from undocumented immigrants living within their borders. Those states are California ($8.5 billion), Texas ($4.9 billion), New York ($3.1 billion), Florida ($1.8 billion), Illinois ($1.5 billion), and New Jersey ($1.3 billion).
• In a large majority of states (40), undocumented immigrants pay higher state and local tax rates than the top 1 percent of households living within their borders.
• Income tax payments by undocumented immigrants are affected by laws that require them to pay more than otherwise similarly situated U.S. citizens. Undocumented immigrants are often barred from receiving meaningful tax credits and sometimes do not claim refunds they are owed due to lack of awareness, concern about their immigration status, or insufficient access to tax preparation assistance.
• Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants would increase their tax contributions both because their wages would rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase. Under a scenario where work authorization is provided to all current undocumented immigrants, their tax contributions would rise by $40.2 billion per year to $136.9 billion. Most of the new revenue raised in this scenario ($33.1 billion) would flow to the federal government while the remainder ($7.1 billion) would flow to states and localities.

Job done boyo.

 

[motorbiking]

I know. I'm sorry. But I don't know how else to deal with somebody who will say black is white because he is pathologically unable to accept he has ever made a mistake.

you can read the sources your AI is offering you, and check them out. otherwise you end up claiming "all the research says" when its nothing more than opinions from a left leaning news article.

 

[MNW67]

you can read the sources your AI is offering you, and check them out. otherwise you end up claiming "all the research says" when its nothing more than opinions from a left leaning news article.

Try Reuters, then:

Fact Check: Undocumented immigrants can and do pay taxes

Noncitizens who do not have a social security number can and do use a taxpayer identification number issued by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to file tax returns, contrary to posts online that suggest undocumented immigrants do not pay taxes.

www.reuters.com

 

[noseall]

you can read the sources

ITEP.....

.....is a Washington, D.C.-based, 501(c)(3) non-profit, non-partisan research organization founded in 1980. It provides in-depth, data-driven analysis on federal, state, and local tax policies, focusing on fairness and equity. ITEP is known for its research on how taxes affect different income groups, corporations, and racial groups.

They've been going a while.

 

[Highway Man]

I know. I'm sorry. But I don't know how else to deal with somebody who will say black is white because he is pathologically unable to accept he has ever made a mistake.

Just a difference of opinion, AI doesn't make you right and MBK wrong, it means that MBK has read different to you and vice versa

 

[MNW67]

Just a difference of opinion, AI doesn't make you right and MBK wrong, it means that MBK has read different to you and vice versa

 

[motorbiking]

Try Reuters, then:

Fact Check: Undocumented immigrants can and do pay taxes

Noncitizens who do not have a social security number can and do use a taxpayer identification number issued by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to file tax returns, contrary to posts online that suggest undocumented immigrants do not pay taxes.

www.reuters.com

Did you read it?

 

[motorbiking]

Just a difference of opinion, AI doesn't make you right and MBK wrong, it means that MBK has read different to you and vice versa

I also understand what withholding tax is. Unfortunately.
Non-citizen does not mean illegal immigrant.

 

[noseall]

I know. I'm sorry. But I don't know how else to deal with somebody who will say black is white because he is pathologically unable to accept he has ever made a mistake.

The bloke is a loon. His other lengthy denial threads have reliably shown this.

 

[noseall]

Did you read it?

Some. which bit did you want to discuss?

 

[MNW67]

Did you read it?

Yes.

It says that there is a system called ITIN which illegal immigrants can use to pay federal income tax.

 

[noseall]

Non-citizen does not mean illegal immigrant.

Have a look if you can see the word non-citizen anywhere...

• Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local governments.
• Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local taxes of $8,889 per person in 2022. In other words, for every 1 million undocumented immigrants who reside in the country, public services receive $8.9 billion in additional tax revenue.
• More than a third of the tax dollars paid by undocumented immigrants go toward payroll taxes dedicated to funding programs that these workers are barred from accessing. Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7 billion in Social Security taxes, $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and $1.8 billion in unemployment insurance taxes in 2022.
• At the state and local levels, slightly less than half (46 percent, or $15.1 billion) of the tax payments made by undocumented immigrants are through sales and excise taxes levied on their purchases. Most other payments are made through property taxes, such as those levied on homeowners and renters (31 percent, or $10.4 billion), or through personal and business income taxes (21 percent, or $7.0 billion).
• Six states raised more than $1 billion each in tax revenue from undocumented immigrants living within their borders. Those states are California ($8.5 billion), Texas ($4.9 billion), New York ($3.1 billion), Florida ($1.8 billion), Illinois ($1.5 billion), and New Jersey ($1.3 billion).
• In a large majority of states (40), undocumented immigrants pay higher state and local tax rates than the top 1 percent of households living within their borders.
• Income tax payments by undocumented immigrants are affected by laws that require them to pay more than otherwise similarly situated U.S. citizens. Undocumented immigrants are often barred from receiving meaningful tax credits and sometimes do not claim refunds they are owed due to lack of awareness, concern about their immigration status, or insufficient access to tax preparation assistance.
• Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants would increase their tax contributions both because their wages would rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase. Under a scenario where work authorization is provided to all current undocumented immigrants, their tax contributions would rise by $40.2 billion per year to $136.9 billion. Most of the new revenue raised in this scenario ($33.1 billion) would flow to the federal government while the remainder ($7.1 billion) would flow to states and localities

Read more.

Read and weep boyo.