ICE told to get the eff out

[motorbiking]

He did say this:

Indeed.
Didn’t call them thugs.
Was specifically referring to this situation
Did not say all ICE are immune.
Has not specifically granted any immunity to ICE.

His error was stating absolute immunity instead of qualified immunity, which is not new and not specific to ICE.

Hence.

The ICE thugs have been given immunity from prosecution.

Is a lie.

It is the circumstances that may give him qualified immunity from civil liability. But you know this.

 

[MNW67]

Indeed.
Didn’t call them thugs.
Was specifically referring to this situation
Did not say all ICE are immune.
Has not specifically granted any immunity to ICE.

His error was stating absolute immunity instead of qualified immunity, which is not new and not specific to ICE.

Vance also said this:

The precedent here is very simple. You have a federal law enforcement official engaging in federal law enforcement action. That’s a federal issue. That guy is protected by absolute immunity.

 

[motorbiking]

Vance also said this:

that would also be broadly correct.

 

[blup]

Trumpf apparently describing the incident as a tragedy since finding out the victims parents are magas. Another U turn to go with the Epsten files and numerous other U turns.

 

[Highway Man]

The ICE thugs have been given immunity from prosecution.

Rightly so

 

[motorbiking]

Trumpf apparently describing the incident as a tragedy

It is a tragedy, like all of the other unarmed shootings

 

[Highway Man]

The loonies don’t see it as a tragedy. More a point scoring exercise to hate on Trump. They have now gone from murder to it’s a setup. OMG

 

[mitch66]

Trumpf apparently describing the incident as a tragedy since finding out the victims parents are magas. Another U turn to go with the Epsten files and numerous other U turns.

lol

 

[Odds]

The loonies don’t see it as a tragedy. More a point scoring exercise to hate on Trump. They have now gone from murder to it’s a setup. OMG

lol

Looks like the mods have been busy, boys....think on.

 

[Odds]

 

[motorbiking]

Looks like the mods have been busy, boys....think on.

Did you lose some posts?

 

[Odds]

Did you lose some posts?

Guess again, Capt. Cuttlefish.

 

[motorbiking]

Guess again, Capt. Cuttlefish.

Weird

 

[diy_fun_uk]

I have mixed feelings about this ICE stuff in the States. Yes it can be argued that it's good to see a country getting tough on illegal immigrants, however I wonder if what we're seeing is almost going from one extreme to the other.

Trump was keen to reiterate during his Davos speech that ICE is almost exclusively going after hardened criminals and wrong 'uns in general. According to Trump, ICE isn't going after people they know are living their illegally but are living decent ordinary lives e.g. working in the service industry and the like. MMmmm, I'm not convinced some of the stories we're seeing back that up.

When it comes to the UK, as we've discussed on here many times, yes we need much tougher immigration controls, legal, illegal, small boats, the whole lot. And we need more effective removal processes. However, would I want to see groups of armed men with their faces covered combing various areas in various towns and cities? No.

 

[motorbiking]

I have mixed feelings about this ICE stuff in the States. Yes it can be argued that it's good to see a country getting tough on illegal immigrants, however I wonder if what we're seeing is almost going from one extreme to the other.

Trump was keen to reiterate during his Davos speech that ICE is almost exclusively going after hardened criminals and wrong 'uns in general. According to Trump, ICE isn't going after people they know are living their illegally but are living decent ordinary lives e.g. working in the service industry and the like. MMmmm, I'm not convinced some of the stories we're seeing back that up.

When it comes to the UK, as we've discussed on here many times, yes we need much tougher immigration controls, legal, illegal, small boats, the whole lot. And we need more effective removal processes. However, would I want to see groups of armed men with their faces covered combing various areas in various towns and cities? No.

It would be handy if those arrested in raids were actually deported. Its about 1 in 10.