ICE told to get the eff out

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The problem with shooting someone in the head or back, it is more than probable that they will die. Therefore their intention was most certainly to kill him, we just haven't got all of the facts to say whether or not they had their reasons.
 
If you read the discussions online, I think pretty much everyone has accepted now that the guy was blameless. He wasn't shot because he was struggling. The main talking point is why was that first shot fired. Was it accidental. Did it cause the other agents to panic.
That doesn't mean that they are right, let us put into context that this is ICE that has shot him so there will be a lot of hate anyway. Also the fact that people do not like seeing people killed, you can understand their feelings.
 
Personally I think there is more to come out about this and we are not privy to that info at the moment. Of course seeing someone shot appears traumatic and unexpected, but the lad who shot at Trump in his ear got shot and killed and no outcry was mentioned at that shooting.
 
The problem with shooting someone in the head or back, it is more than probable that they will die. Therefore their intention was most certainly to kill him, we just haven't got all of the facts to say whether or not they had their reasons.

I think what actually happened is that, when the agents heard the shot, they assumed that it had come from the victim i.e. somehow, even though he was totally pinned, he had somehow managed to access another hidden gun and fire it. Nothing else makes sense. Unless is really was just a cold blooded and wilful execution.
 
I'm surprised Dork didn't beat me to this as the resident guns n ammo enthusiast. The picture of Pretti's gun shows its a Sig Sauer P320 9mm. It has a standard safety and a drop safety.

For it to discharge accidentally, there was a round chambered, the striker sprung and the safety was off.

Someone might have been prepared.
 
I think what actually happened is that, when the agents heard the shot, they assumed that it had come from the victim i.e. somehow, even though he was totally pinned, he had somehow managed to access another hidden gun and fire it. Nothing else makes sense. Unless is really was just a cold blooded and wilful execution.
Very possible, but I think there is more to come out
 
I'm surprised Dork didn't beat me to this as the resident guns n ammo enthusiast. The picture of Pretti's gun shows its a Sig Sauer P320 9mm. It has a standard safety and a drop safety.

For it to discharge accidentally, there was a round chambered, the striker sprung and the safety was off.

Someone might have been prepared.

That gun is well known for accidental discharges.
 
I'm surprised Dork didn't beat me to this as the resident guns n ammo enthusiast. The picture of Pretti's gun shows it a Sig Sauer P320 9mm. It has a standard safety and a drop safety.

For it to discharge accidentally, there was a round chambered, and the striker sprung and the safety was off.

Someone might have been prepared.
That was also my train of thought, I didn't say as some loony would have said the ICE agent took it off on purpose or it got taken off in the struggle, it would explain them standing around him after they had shot him as they was expecting something
 
That gun is well known for accidental discharges.
it can't accidentally discharge if there in no chambered round and the striker not primed.

Its the drop safety that was the issue.

What f*** id** caries a side arm with a chambered round.
 
I still think he had intentions of taking a few agents out and doing himself in but that cannot now be proven with the info that we have.
 
it can't accidentally discharge if there in no chambered round and the striker not primed.

Its the drop safety that was the issue.

What f*** id** caries a side arm with a chambered round.

It is common practice amongst experienced concealed carriers. So is carrying a spare magazine. Nothing the victim did was unusual. The safety probably got knocked by the agent yanking it out of the victim's waistband/holster.
 
It is common amongst experienced concealed carriers. So is carrying a spare magazine. Nothing the victim did was unusual. The safety probably got knocked by the agent yanking it out of the victim's waistband/holster.
Nonsense
 
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