irregular ignition Britony 80

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I have had an issue with insufficient water pressure getting into the flat due pipework is 15mm and 1 mains feeding 3 flats. we are the top flat. Over the last 3 years the boiler has been touchy. If you add too much cold water with the hot, it just stopped heating the water altogether. The central heating has always worked. It has been bearable due the heating worked and most of the year it wasn't a big problem with the hot water. But recently it has got worse. The main flame is not igniting at all even when trying to heat the radiators or have hot water. It cuts out after trying for 5 secs (u hear clicking as it tries to ignite) then the red reset button lights. The water pressure isn't great but not worse than in previous times. So i think there is a secondary problem. However if I reset enough times, or fire it with central heating and then run hot water(which doesnt always work -also fails alot) every now and then the flame burns and we all cheer! I have an application in to get my own stopcock from the mains with Thames Water. But this could take time and I think the boiler does have a geniune ignition problem. Or is it really only pure water pressure?
 
It sounds as if this is a typical case that the boiler has never been serviced and you have waited three years seeing it get worse and worse!

You probably have several problems now and require a competent boiler engineer familiar with this model to come and sort it out for you!

Tony Glazier
 
you are right in that. I have never had anyone service it properly that knows what they're talking about. Plenty of people who come and say 'boiler fine,but you got a pressure problem'. And my reply has been the same, 'yes i know, but there's more to it than that'. Can you recommend an expert on these boilers in the sw london area?
 
ChrisR is based in your general area but I dont know how comfortable he is with that model.

Because their design is rather different from most other boilers, many RGIs tend to avoid getting involved with them.

In reality they are quite simple and easy to work on when you understand them. It does have whats almost a design fault in that the magnetic switches attract magnetic debris from the radiators and get stuck.

There are several magetic filters available now which would virtually eliminate that problem but the additional cost is rarely spent as the boilers are viewed as old and unreliable and are usually replaced with another make.

Tony Glazier
 
Thanks so much. So strategy as follows - get thames water in to sort out the pressure. if that sorts out the problem then all well and good. if not, chuck out the boiler due it isn't worth pulling it apart at any rate. all sounds as though need a decent payrise. can you suggest a good replacement boiler. was thinking down the line of vaillant 828. what you reckon it will cost me to buy and fit?
 
All boilers installed since April have to be condensing except in a very few special cases.

Plenty of threads on forums on cost of replacements, about £1000 to £2000 or a bit more depending on boiler and cowboy fitting!

Tony
 
I dont know why Softus, next posting, thinks that I am TRYING to mislead people. Why on earth would I ever want to intentionally mislead anyone.

He also seems to think that I am trying to sell something!

Tony
 
Agile said:
All current boilers have to be condensing.

No; they don't. Only new boilers have to be, and in some circumstances this rule is relaxed. Stop misleading people and stop trying to sell your services.
 
softus said:
Stop misleading people and stop trying to sell your services.
Tony has been giving sound advice on this and other forums for a good deal longer than most. I have certainly learned a lot from his well informed postings.
 
Not to me, or I wouldn't have asked.

Since you decline to reply, I shall bid you goodnight. It's well past my bedtime.
 
chrishutt said:
Not to me, or I wouldn't have asked.

Since you decline to reply, I shall bid you goodnight. It's well past my bedtime.

Unfortunately, you believing that something is not obvious is not the same as that thing actually being not obvious.
 
Softus said:
Agile said:
All current boilers have to be condensing.

No; they don't. Only new boilers have to be, and in some circumstances this rule is relaxed. Stop misleading people and stop trying to sell your services.

Stop being so pickky. You could have left out the first and last sentences of your post and just provided positive information instead of adding the sniping comments. I might be blunt with people, but I don't keep adding snide little remarks which contribute nothing. (like this one :D)
 

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