Is it just me or….

[IfInDoubtDIY]

…does anyone else find T+E really frustrating to work with?

 

[ETAF]

yep

 

[JohnW2]

…does anyone else find T+E really frustrating to work with?

What do you find easier to deal with?

 

[IfInDoubtDIY]

What do you find easier to deal with?

Well, flex!

 

[JohnW2]

Well, flex!

I would personally say that it is 'swings and roundabouts' - some aspects of using flex are easier than T+E, but other aspects are the other way around.

Whatever, I don't personally find either flex or T+E particularly difficult to work with. Both become progressively more difficult with increasing size.

 

[IfInDoubtDIY]

I would personally say that it is 'swings and roundabouts' - some aspects of using flex are easier than T+E, but other aspects are the other way around.

Whatever, I don't personally find either flex or T+E particularly difficult to work with. Both become progressively more difficult with increasing size.

Ok, maybe it’s just me then! I just find myself getting more p*ssed off with T+E than with flex.

 

[JohnW2]

Ok, maybe it’s just me then! I just find myself getting more p*ssed off with T+E than with flex.

As I said, I personally sometimes get p*ssed off with T+E,and sometimes with flex - so I "can't win".

 

[IfInDoubtDIY]

As I said, I personally sometimes get p*ssed off with T+E,and sometimes with flex - so I "can't win".

We can just agree to disagree. No harm done.

 

[JohnW2]

We can just agree to disagree. No harm done.

As I said, I'm not disagreeing. On some occasions I feel as you do; on other occasions the opposite.

One of the potential problems with flex (invariably 'fine stranded') is that one has to be careful not to leave any 'whiskers' of the conductor in places where they shouldn't be - a problem which obviously doesn't exist at all with smaller T+E, which has solid conductors, and much less of a risk with the larger sizes of T+E which have quite big/stiff 'strands'.

Also, on stripping flex, one has to be careful not to chop through some of the strands.

On the other hand, the 'stiffness' of T+E can sometimes make it more difficult to use than flex.

"Horses for Courses"!

 

[Murdochcat]

Twin and earth is fine to work with except pre 1975 stuff

What are you trying to do?

 

[crystal ball]

LSOH T&E is pretty grim

 

[ericmark]

Getting T&E to look good on tray work far harder than a round cable.

 

[plugwash]

I find T&E much easier to work with than flex, I find with flex it's really easy to damage the inner insulation while trying to strip the sheath.

 

[IfInDoubtDIY]

Well I’ve certainly created a lot of debate here - but in 2025 being able to have healthy debate is no bad thing!

 

[JohnW2]

Well I’ve certainly created a lot of debate here - but in 2025 being able to have healthy debate is no bad thing!

It never has been ('a bad thing'), and I hope it never will be, but I'm not sure what's special about 2025