Is it murder or man slaughter

[Lower]

Whilst appreciating the police have to make judgements in a very short space of time and in what can be very difficult circumstances, I wonder how the policeman is feeling who said 'don't think so mate' when Henry said he'd been stabbed.

I'll say again as I've said before, the authorities should treat everyone the same.

As for the knife carrying thing for religious reasons. This needs to be scrapped.

I do have to laugh at the likes of Musk spouting his guff. Maybe look closer to home first re how the police in the States conduct themselves.

There was no justification for carrying the knife that Digwa was carrying, other than to carry a knife in the same way that loads of people carry knives in this country nowadays, which is with the intent to intimidate or injure other people.

Should we ban the kirpan because of the actions of one person? We did it for semi-automatic rifles after Hungerford and handguns after Dunblane.

However, knives are far more readily available than semi automatic rifles and handguns and its not viable to licence knives. It is already an offence to brandish or use a Kirpan aggressively. Do we need to change the law as a result of one offender?

 

[motorbiking]

I think a compromise is to have the knife concealed. Having a large knife on a belt in public may be threatening and provoking. But I am not Sikh and do not understand how this would impact law abiding Sikhs.

 

[pete01]

 

[Lower]

I think a compromise is to have the knife concealed. Having a large knife on a belt in public may be threatening and provoking. But I am not Sikh and do not understand how this would impact law abiding Sikhs.

Blunted would also be a compromise.

 

[Highway Man]

Sensible talking, I have been hammering this home since the black lives matter campaign, the term racist is way over used now and should be taken with a pinch of salt. I hold very little regard when someone calls someone a racist. I think it is now about time others did the same.

 

[johnny2007]

Sensible talking, I have been hammering this home since the black lives matter campaign, the term racist is way over used now and should be taken with a pinch of salt. I hold very little regard when someone calls someone a racist. I think it is now about time others did the same.

Been doing that for years.
Anyone playing the race card without reason is a dishonest person and a clown and as such should be treated.

 

[ellal]

I think a compromise is to have the knife concealed. Having a large knife on a belt in public may be threatening and provoking. But I am not Sikh and do not understand how this would impact law abiding Sikhs.

The fact that the knife used was not of the 'religious' type should not be used to have a go at the Sikh community...

The fact that any type of god botherer should be allowed to carry any weapon is the problem!

Apparently if following the 'religion' to the letter, it (the legal knife) should be on one's person at all times, including when asleep...

In which case, why do those who follow the religion to the letter fly on planes?

I guess that comes under the same 'guidelines'/'rules' as the one where most of the muslims I know partake of alcohol/bacon 'every now and then'

 

[motorbiking]

The fact that the knife used was not of the 'religious' type should not be used to have a go at the Sikh community...

This is incorrect. See Point 10. in the sentence report.

10. You were sober but were carrying a large Sikh dagger in a sheath attached to a belt over the outside of your clothing. It is a strict requirement of the Sikh faith to have a knife, called a kirpan, at all times. Generally, this will be a small knife, hidden from view, often on a length of cord and worn around the neck. You had that but, in addition, the large dagger in a sheath. You are a member of an order of Sikhs called the Nihang who have a tradition of having a second knife, or kirpan and that is often fully visible, believing that the guru will look favourably on that. You observed that tradition in your everyday life, at work and in public. However, it was not a strict requirement; that is borne out by the fact that neither your brother nor father who arrived on the scene after you had stabbed Henry were so dressed. According to Professor Gurnam Singh, Professor of Sociology and an expert in the field: “Over the last 30 years, there has been a trend towards younger people wearing a kirpan with pride, in a desire to express their cultural identity. They see it as an act of resistance to being denied the ability otherwise to display their identity.”

 

[Lower]

New charges for Digma, his brother and his father.

They have been charged with possessing a whole menagerie of bladed and other offensive weopons such as an asp, knuckledusters, a flick knife, swords, kusaris, and a machete.

 

[motorbiking]

wow

Henry Nowak murderer faces new charges alongside brother and father

The trio are charged with possessing a flick knife, machete, swords and knuckledusters, among other weapons

www.independent.co.uk