Israel slaughters more starving refugees

[Highway Man]

A recent pole showed hamas is still in favour by the palestinian people at 46%

I may have confused the question, I mean hamas and the supporters not the innocent palestinians. Especially the children.

 

[JohnD]

And that Highwayman therefore considers the attack on the Israeli border fort to have been legitimate, and the armed forces killed, wounded and captured on both sides to have been legitimate, and the serving, off-duty and reservist Israeli soldiers at the music festival to have been legitimate targets, just like Hamas fighters killed in Gaza.

Is that right, Highwayman?

 

[Highway Man]

Personally I would like to see aid brought into Gaza and allow the IDF to eradicate hamas, that is where I stand. I agree with Israel on it's stance and admire their prime minister to have the guts to protect his people.

 

[JohnD]

Personally I would like to see aid brought into Gaza and allow the IDF to eradicate hamas, that is where I stand. I agree with Israel on it's stance and admire their prime minister to have the guts to protect his people.

Are you still saying it's a legitimate war?

 

[Highway Man]

And that Highwayman therefore considers the attack on the Israeli border fort to have been legitimate, and the armed forces killed, wounded and captured on both sides to have been legitimate, and the serving, off-duty and reservist Israeli soldiers at the music festival to have been legitimate targets, just like Hamas fighters killed in Gaza.

Is that right, Highwayman?

well only partially right. Yes military figures are legitimate targets in a war.

 

[JohnD]

partially

Which part?

 

[Highway Man]

Are you still saying it's a legitimate war?

Is any war considered legitimate. I am no solicitor but I find it intolerable in this day and age

 

[Highway Man]

Which part?

If hamas went to attack a military target and only target military personnel then that is understandable as is the right for Israel to attack back at hamas. However this was not the case.

 

[Highway Man]

Israel has every right to go into Gaza after the event of Oct 7th. I know this is an age old war that has continued through time, however it has reached a point that is way over the top and is indeed terrorism.

 

[noseall]

gets massive amounts of news coverage hence the ououtrage.

I'd say the outrage stems from the fact a lot on here condone the IDF for the slaughter and starvation of Palestinian civilians.
They say it's justified...

 

[JohnD]

it has reached a point that is way over the top and is indeed terrorism.

And Israel's actions are genocide

As well as terrorism.

 

[Highway Man]

And Israel's actions are genocide

As well as terrorism.

Not sure it is actually considered genocide but it's actions are certainly having an impact on the civillian population, that is a fact.

 

[fillyboy]

There are many Muslim nations in the Middle East. They all hate us, or just the Palestinians? Are Israel planning on wiping out any others?

True but the only really relevant ones are Iran, Saudi, Turkey, Qatar. Sunni or Shia is the dividing line, Turkey will side with Saudi and by default Israel, Qatar want to become Westernised but can't help themselves so fund Hamas, although now distancing themselves from them. The Arab nations have enough problems and divides between themselves, whilst still graduating toward normalisation with Israel. Iran are the main outlier and are still sworn to the destruction of Israel.
It's interesting to note China's change of language toward Iran, not such a staunch supporter as they were 6 months ago, they're not stupid.

The landscape of the Middle East is evolving, changing for the better, Israel and Saudi will be at the forefront of this.

Starmer's not stupid either judging by recent statements regarding recognition of Palestine as a state.

 

[fillyboy]

Are you still saying it's a legitimate war?

Of course it's a legitimate war you fool. Gaza invaded Israel, Israel retaliated.

Hamas refuse to lay down their arms and release the hostages, Israel are compelled to carry on fighting until all the hostages, dead or alive are released.

 

[Odds]

True but the only really relevant ones are Iran, Saudi, Turkey, Qatar. Sunni or Shia is the dividing line,

France are prepared to recognise the State of Palestine in September and Starmer is being urged by more of his MPs to do the same. The Eu is more opposed to Israel than at the start of this war due to the actions of Netanyahu's government and their IDF stormtroopers.

Turkey will side with Saudi and by default Israel,

Not been listening too closely to Erdogan over the last couple of years, have you?

Qatar want to become Westernised but can't help themselves so fund Hamas, although now distancing themselves from them.

Got a link for that?

The Arab nations have enough problems and divides between themselves, whilst still graduating toward normalisation with Israel. Iran are the main outlier and are still sworn to the destruction of Israel.
It's interesting to note China's change of language toward Iran, not such a staunch supporter as they were 6 months ago, they're not stupid.

got a link for that?

The landscape of the Middle East is evolving, changing for the better, Israel and Saudi will be at the forefront of this.

You should read the recent statements from the far-right in Israel before you make such sweeping claims.