Right ok have had a total rethink on this.
Have decided to turn joists 90 degrees so that the total span is 3800mm
I will have one truss bolted to wall and use joist hangers, the other end will bear on new blockwork, total span will be reduced by 50mm to 3750mm.
I have inherited as leftovers a couple of hundred 44mm x 44mm square stair spindles that i will use extensively as herringbone noggings, (or perhaps sell them and use 50mm x 50mm of the shelf).
the joists I have were previously used as joists in a property that we demolished, there is no grading but they were in a structural situation, there possibbly 100 YO when wood was wood, there clean dry and i have rucks of them. they are 48mm x230mm in section. Now I have said i would like to cut the, down to 178mm x 48mm purposly to keep a flush ceiling with the existing room which now becomes extended into the extension.
Yes i could use these joists in there entirety, and batten/pack existing joists, but i really dont want to lose any height in ceiling. the ceiling is at 2400mm which is pretty standard, but the room is going to be quite large, and I know that ceiling height will make all the difference.
My question I suppose is given a 3750mm bearing, and as many noggings as I like + spacing the joists as close as nessessary, what is the minimum depth i can use.
I have looked at Local authority joist/span tables, but they are not in the fine increments i seek.
Again thanks for any advice,
Russell