Leaking uPVC window

[DHFrames]

The frame is sat on the wrong part on the sill. I'll take a pic later when I have a sill and door section. Your drainage holes will be under the cap with the grey wall pile on, need to get a scraper and prize it up. Its hard to say off one pic, Can you take some more pics in and out of all the door, threshold, sill etc.
To get the pics up you need to select "Show my Images" then select the ones required

 

[Gazman16]

When you look at the cill on your door you can see the flat section of the cill. This shows that the cill is fitted incorrectly, If you look at DH's pics you can see that the frame should be fully covering that flat section. So there must be a big hole under yours probably hidden with a plastic trim on the inside.

As mentioned I think the whole thing need taking out and fitting again, Possibly with a larger 180mm or 220mm cill.

Its probably worth asking on facebook if any of your friends know a proper window fitter. Your looking at about a days labor £80-£130ish depending on where you live and maybe £10 for a new cill.

 

[noelrobx]

Ok, I'm trying to take on board all you're saying, jargon included. I've just looked at the sliding door and there are no water outlets along the frame when it's open. Someone said that there should be. I have now put sealant along the brush hair gap between the glass/frame and the bottom frame and blocked up the gap along the side (I still don't understand why these gaps are there...any ideas?)
Worryingly, most of you seem to believe that the frame and sill are not matched properly. I cannot believe what I'm reading here. There is certainly a flat section of the sill exposed before the sill slopes down but are you saying that the whole thing has been built incorrectly? If so, what does the frame sit on? Air? And if I understand you right, I paid £6000 for a bodge job!! Heck, what do I do? Get some builder to take the whole thing out and do it properly for another £1000 or so?
The ceiling has fallen-in in the flat beneath due to continual water seeping through over the years. So, there's no point in replacing the ceiling until the doors above have been correctly installed? What a nightmare!!!!
I am in North London, if that makes a difference.

Noel

 

[Gazman16]

Don't use a builder, It was probably a builder fitting it rather than a door and window fitter that has caused the problems.

Im not sure what part you have sealed, You need to post some more pics.

If you look at the flat plastic bit with the brush pile in your pic this section is clipped in and the drainage holes should be underneath it. You can pull it out to check, It will be clipped in pretty well so you will need a scraper or chisel to leaver it out.

As I said try finding a window fitter who know knows PVC patio doors. It would probably only take half a day of actual work for one guy who knows what they are doing to take it all out and refit correctly but Id expect him to want a full days wage from it. My labor estimate may be a little low for London prices but shouldn't cost much more.

 

[Gazman16]

If you have no luck finding a fitter on facebook try a small local window company. Take some pics with you and ask for a quote.
As a company they would probably need to put a few hundred extra on for profit though.

 

[Gazman16]

There will be a slight grove here where the arrow points that you can put a scraper in to lever out this section to look for the drainage holes

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[DHFrames]

More pics please Noel
The flat section of the sill is for the frame to sit on!!!
We're not quite sure what you've sealed so some pics would give us a better outlook to advise.

 

[Gazman16]

Can you show a pic of the inside bottom of the door where it meets the floor

 

[noelrobx]

Thanks for the feedback!
Great idea to put an arrow on the pic (how did you do that?) so I can refer to things better. First, there's a small slot just under where the arrow head is. It cannot be seen unless from below. There's another one at the other end of the door about 15 feet away (no others). Are these the slots I prise open to take the strip out? They are a bit small (3mm x 2cms)
The sealant was put along the black line (brush hairs in a gap) which goes diagonally down across to the left from above the arrow head in the pic.
The vertical gap and hole can be seen above the arrow head slightly to the right (it has a screw head poking out in it). I have put a PVC trim along the vertical gap with sealant into the hole.
The fitters were a specialist uPVC windows and doors company and, according to the pics you sent me, are fitted wrong. That flat bit under the door should not be seen as it should be under door, right? So, these specialist fitters have really bodged this up!!
As an aside, I have just come home from a charity meeting helping parents get to see their kids (mainly dads) and also divorce and financials. If you or any mates need help in this area please contact me at [email protected] Cheers, Noel

 

[Gazman16]

Yes it has been fitted wrong.
To draw on an image go to your profile and find your pics, Click on it, Then just under your pic will be a button to draw on image.
Im probably just confusing you by trying to show you how to see were the drainage holes are hidden. They cannot work properly with the way the cill has been fitted.

I don't think any of the other guys have backed me up on this yet but I am 95% certain that your door needs to be taken out and refitted correctly.

I am assuming they were fitted by one of the large national company's? The problem with them is that they dont vet their fitters very well (they used to hire anyone who came in and said "Yea I can do that") also they pay the guys peanuts normally about £50 per window and £80 per door so the fitters just throw things in and get done as quick as possible.

You need to find a fitter from a small local company who value their reputation and take pride in their work.

 

[DHFrames]

Agree with G-man, take out and refit. Certainly the cheapest option!
Maybe we can start a charity helping fitters understand the basics of fitting a window/door??!!