Maggie come back all is forgiven !

[JohnD]

And although illness forced Lady Thatcher to step out of the limelight, it did not stop her making her increasingly outspoken views on the EU known.

It would be more accurate, though perhaps a little unkind, to say "And although dementia forced Lady Thatcher to step out of the limelight, it did not stop her making her increasingly outspoken views on the EU known"

Perhaps you're right, and there is a link between failing mental powers, and hatred of the EU.

 

[noseall]

She lit the blue touch paper when she signed the SE act. Misson creep my arse. It's irrelevant that she threw her dummy out if the pram because she didn' like the outcome. Mission accomplished.

 

[Notch7]

It would be more accurate, though perhaps a little unkind, to say "And although dementia forced Lady Thatcher to step out of the limelight, it did not stop her making her increasingly outspoken views on the EU known"

Perhaps you're right, and there is a link between failing mental powers, and hatred of the EU.

Thatchers No No No speech (1990):

Margaret Thatcher: Yes, the Commission does want to increase its powers. Yes, it is a non-elected body and I do not want the Commission to increase its powers at the expense of the House, so of course we are differing. Of course…

The President of the Commission, Mr. Delors, said at a press conference the other day that he wanted the European Parliament to be the democratic body of the Community, he wanted the Commission to be the Executive and he wanted the Council of Ministers to be the Senate. No. No. No.

Or…. or…..or…..

Perhaps the Labour party would give all those things up easily. Perhaps it would agree to a single currency, to total abolition of the pound sterling. Perhaps, being totally incompetent with monetary matters, they’d be only too delighted to hand over full responsibility as they did to the IMF, to a central bank. The fact is they have no competence on money and no competence on the economy—so, yes, the right hon. Gentleman would be glad to hand it all over. What is the point in trying to get elected to Parliament only to hand over your sterling and the powers of this House to Europe?

 

[Notch7]

JohnD suffering from

failing mental powers

 

[Notch7]

She lit the blue touch paper when she signed the SE act. Misson creep my arse. It's irrelevant that she threw her dummy out if the pram because she didn' like the outcome. Mission accomplished.

Mission accomplished -rubbish
Mission creep since SEA yup absolutely
Maarstrict
Amsterdam
Nice
Lisbon



Thatchers No No No speech (1990):

Margaret Thatcher: Yes, the Commission does want to increase its powers. Yes, it is a non-elected body and I do not want the Commission to increase its powers at the expense of the House, so of course we are differing. Of course…

The President of the Commission, Mr. Delors, said at a press conference the other day that he wanted the European Parliament to be the democratic body of the Community, he wanted the Commission to be the Executive and he wanted the Council of Ministers to be the Senate. No. No. No.

Or…. or…..or…..

Perhaps the Labour party would give all those things up easily. Perhaps it would agree to a single currency, to total abolition of the pound sterling. Perhaps, being totally incompetent with monetary matters, they’d be only too delighted to hand over full responsibility as they did to the IMF, to a central bank. The fact is they have no competence on money and no competence on the economy—so, yes, the right hon. Gentleman would be glad to hand it all over. What is the point in trying to get elected to Parliament only to hand over your sterling and the powers of this House to Europe?

 

[gasbanni]

no noseall is noseall not "notch 7"

wannabediy is himagin aka way har bee to his friends hope u are sitting down ?? but it may sadden u to know that wanabediy aka himagin does not like u must have been something u said

If that's the case I see it as an accolade !

 

[gasbanni]

no noseall is noseall not "notch 7"

wannabediy is himagin aka way har bee to his friends hope u are sitting down ?? but it may sadden u to know that wanabediy aka himagin does not like u must have been something u said

Transam for goodness sake it's Knowsnowt not the other name he like to call himself ....or it could be knowsfucall if you prefer.

 

[transam]

There u go Noseall

Notch has given u a detailed explanation of mission creep

 

[gasbanni]

There u go Noseall

Notch has given u a detailed explanation of mission creep

There you go again calling him by his self opinionated bloody user name it's KNOWSNOWT !!!!!!!!!

 

[JohnD]

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[Roger928]

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Churchill had no idea back then that we'd end up being £350,000,000 quid per week worse off as part of the price for being a member of this so called "united Europe" and kowtowing to a cartel of unelected dictators.

And as for "united" take a look at spain. Catalans are saying blood will be spilled.
Your beloved eu is falling apart.

 

[vinty]

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I think you have quoted Churchill out of context,if you read his speeches on Europe in their entirety it is clear that the United Europe he was referring to was one which didn't include Britain.

 

[vinty]

If Maggie was still around I wonder how she would have dealt with her treacherous international development secretary who went on "holiday" in Israel and just happened to meet the Israeli prime minister and a load of other Israeli politicians.
Lord Polak top Tory donor just happened to be there as well, it appears she was offering to channel foreign aid money to the Israeli army in return for the support of the Friends of Israel in a bid to become Tory party leader.

 

[JohnD]

I think you have quoted Churchill out of context,if you read his speeches on Europe in their entirety it is clear that the United Europe he was referring to was one which didn't include Britain.

He still imagined that the British Empire and Dominions would span the globe, and Britain would regain its position as Top Nation.

He misunderstood.

He was a man of the nineteenth Century at heart.

 

[transam]

There you go again calling him by his self opinionated bloody user name it's KNOWSNOWT !!!!!!!!!

gasbanni "we" are from a noble profession there fore we need to maintain the very high standards of that profession and not stoop to the same level
as the nosealls & way har bees

look what we have done for society / the community.

we are doing our bit for the enviroment , keeping the elderly the sick and the infirm warm, bathing and drinking water

blimey we should all be given some type of medal or award for services to the community

every time Noseall takes a dump he should think of you/ us