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Elsa TLC said:
Is it? Seems some conflicting information on Google.
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No, there isn't:

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'is fascism a centrist doctrine'

No,
fascism is a far-right, ultranationalist, and authoritarian political ideology, not a centrist one. It is fundamentally opposed to centrism, liberalism, democracy, communism, and socialism.
Key points regarding fascism's position on the political spectrum:
  • Far-Right Ideology Fascism is consistently categorized by historians and political scientists as being on the far-right of the traditional left–right political spectrum.
  • Opposition to Centrism Fascists view centrism and liberalism as weak and decadent. They actively seek to suppress political opposition, including centrist parties, often forming temporary alliances with conservative and centrist elites to gain power before dismantling democratic institutions entirely.
  • Core Principles Its primary characteristics—such as extreme nationalism, dictatorial leadership, glorification of violence and war, belief in a natural social hierarchy, and the subordination of individual interests to the state or "race"—are all hallmarks of an extreme, rather than moderate, political position.
  • Economic Stance While it supports private property and a market economy, the state maintains strong, centralized control over economic activity (a "dirigiste" economy) to achieve national self-sufficiency, a system known as corporatism. This state control is a key difference from classical (laissez-faire) liberalism, which is typically associated with the center-right.
  • Rejection of the Spectrum Some political theorists argue that the single left-right axis is insufficient to describe fascism, sometimes placing it on a different axis (e.g., authoritarian vs. libertarian). However, even using a multi-axis compass, it is consistently at the extreme authoritarian and nationalist end, not the center.
In summary, the notion of fascism as centrist is inaccurate. It is a radical, extreme movement that defines itself in opposition to the center and the left.
 
MNW67 said:
No, there isn't:

AI Overview

'is fascism a centrist doctrine'

No,
fascism is a far-right, ultranationalist, and authoritarian political ideology, not a centrist one. It is fundamentally opposed to centrism, liberalism, democracy, communism, and socialism.
Key points regarding fascism's position on the political spectrum:
  • Far-Right Ideology Fascism is consistently categorized by historians and political scientists as being on the far-right of the traditional left–right political spectrum.
  • Opposition to Centrism Fascists view centrism and liberalism as weak and decadent. They actively seek to suppress political opposition, including centrist parties, often forming temporary alliances with conservative and centrist elites to gain power before dismantling democratic institutions entirely.
  • Core Principles Its primary characteristics—such as extreme nationalism, dictatorial leadership, glorification of violence and war, belief in a natural social hierarchy, and the subordination of individual interests to the state or "race"—are all hallmarks of an extreme, rather than moderate, political position.
  • Economic Stance While it supports private property and a market economy, the state maintains strong, centralized control over economic activity (a "dirigiste" economy) to achieve national self-sufficiency, a system known as corporatism. This state control is a key difference from classical (laissez-faire) liberalism, which is typically associated with the center-right.
  • Rejection of the Spectrum Some political theorists argue that the single left-right axis is insufficient to describe fascism, sometimes placing it on a different axis (e.g., authoritarian vs. libertarian). However, even using a multi-axis compass, it is consistently at the extreme authoritarian and nationalist end, not the center.
In summary, the notion of fascism as centrist is inaccurate. It is a radical, extreme movement that defines itself in opposition to the center and the left.
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Im not saying your wrong, but can you tell me who wrote this?
 
MNW67 said:
In summary, the notion of fascism as centrist is inaccurate. It is a radical, extreme movement that defines itself in opposition to the center and the left.
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In a more brief summary, a bunch of dangerous c nuts!
 
Anyway, this whole discussion about fascism started because I wrote, after watching the videos SPLINE posted, that wanting to deport millions of British citizens is a fascist policy.
 
Nosenout needs to read up on The British Union of Fascists and Fascist Union of British Workers.

The very definition of leftie Fascists when they were formed.
 
MNW67 said:
It's the Google AI. It sort of reviews the whole internet to make a summary.
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Meta Ai seems to be sitting on the fence.

Left-wing fascism sounds like a contradiction in terms, doesn't it? Fascism is typically associated with right-wing, authoritarian ideologies. However, some argue that certain left-wing ideologies can exhibit fascist tendencies, like:
- *Authoritarianism*: Suppressing dissent or opposition.
- *Nationalism*: Prioritizing the state or collective over individual rights.
- *Suppression of individual freedom*: Enforcing strict controls on speech or behavior.

Examples might include:
- *Stalinism*: Authoritarian, one-party rule with strict controls.
- *Maoism*: Emphasis on collective over individual, with brutal suppression of dissent.

Some argue these examples blend left-wing economic policies with fascist tactics. Others argue they're distortions of true left-wing ideology.

What's your take on this? Are you exploring a specific aspect of politics? ️
 
Elsa TLC said:
Meta Ai seems to be sitting on the fence.

Left-wing fascism sounds like a contradiction in terms, doesn't it? Fascism is typically associated with right-wing, authoritarian ideologies. However, some argue that certain left-wing ideologies can exhibit fascist tendencies, like:
- *Authoritarianism*: Suppressing dissent or opposition.
- *Nationalism*: Prioritizing the state or collective over individual rights.
- *Suppression of individual freedom*: Enforcing strict controls on speech or behavior.

Examples might include:
- *Stalinism*: Authoritarian, one-party rule with strict controls.
- *Maoism*: Emphasis on collective over individual, with brutal suppression of dissent.

Some argue these examples blend left-wing economic policies with fascist tactics. Others argue they're distortions of true left-wing ideology.

What's your take on this? Are you exploring a specific aspect of politics? ️
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I answered all this in replies to Charlie George. Sometimes far left ideologies use similar authoritarian tactics to fascism in order to enforce their ideology. But the ideologies themselves are totally different. Fascists will kill or deport certain minorities because racial superiority is a fundamental tenet of fascism. Communists might kill or deport certain minorities if they fear they are opposing them or frustrating their objectives. The outcome might be the same. But only fascism is built on the basis of ethnic purity and the hatred of minorities.
 
MNW67 said:
I answered all this in replies to Charlie George. Sometimes far left ideologies use similar authoritarian tactics to fascism in order to enforce their ideology. But the ideologies themselves are totally different. Fascists will kill or deport certain minorities because racial superiority is a fundamental tenet of fascism. Communists might kill or deport certain minorities if they fear they are opposing them or frustrating their objectives. The outcome might be the same. But only fascism is built on the basis of ethnic purity and the hatred of minorities.
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Do you know what a left wing racist is called?
 
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