Money saving asylum seeker pilot scheme abandoned

[IT Minion]

This week, the UNHCR (the refugee agency that helps the UK government improve its asylum system) will praise a Home Office-funded scheme in Bedfordshire, which it found cut the cost of accommodating refugees and migrants by more than half when compared with placing them in detention.

Suella Braverman refusing to roll out asylum-support scheme deemed ‘more humane’

The UN hailed a pilot project that cut the cost of helping refugees, but the Home Office remains set on hardline illegal migration bill

www.theguardian.com

Ideology is ruling over pragmatism and reality here.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Ideology is ruling over pragmatism and reality here.

Pragmatic only if you close your eyes to reality. Do you really not see any issues with giving random illegal immigrants a house on arrival?

It's a house that someone based here could live in, in a country that's desperately short of housing.

But most importantly it's a pull factor, it incentivises all the other economic migrants they tell about it or who hear about it via the media to have a go for themselves. Many others will be more likely to risk their own and their children's lives by chucking themselves on a giant lilo in the ocean.

Arer the do-gooders really so half-witted that they don't seem to see beyond their dreamy ideals of being nice to everyone and making the world a lovely place? They are inadvertently making the world a much worse and more dangerous place and possibly costing lives as a result of this nonsense.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Pragmatic only if you close your eyes to reality. Do you really not see any issues with giving random illegal immigrants a house on arrival?

It's a house that someone based here could live in, in a country that's desperately short of housing.

But most importantly it's a pull factor, it incentivises all the other economic migrants they tell about it or who hear about it via the media to have a go for themselves. Many others will be more likely to risk their own and their children's lives by chucking themselves on a giant lilo in the ocean.

Arer the do-gooders really so half-witted that they don't seem to see beyond their dreamy ideals of being nice to everyone and making the world a lovely place? They are inadvertently making the world a much worse and more dangerous place and possibly costing lives as a result of this nonsense.

The government prefer to finance hotels, barges and prisons to accomodate asylum seekers, rather than build hosues that could serve the wider community as well.

 

[denso13]

Do you really not see any issues with giving random illegal immigrants a house on arrival?

Good job they don't do that then. Houses aren't handed out.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Do you really not see any issues with giving random illegal immigrants a house on arrival?

I do see a problem with asylum seekers being randomly selected and prosecuted for arriving in order to claim asylum.

 

[gant]

I do see a problem with asylum seekers being randomly selected and prosecuted for arriving in order to claim asylum.

Isn't there a difference between illegal immigrants and genuine asylum seekers?

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

There are some serious deviations from reality being demonstrated here.

Labour will get voted in at the next election. The tories are deliberately setting up this situation as a trap for them, this is exactly the sort of trap they will fall into, Labour will explode at the seams when they try to find a way out of this mess that doesn't annoy pretty much everyone. They'll end up giving out passports "to clear the backlog", so will incentivise probably millions to do the same.

Do-gooders kill people.

 

[denso13]

Isn't there a difference between illegal immigrants and genuine asylum seekers

No, not really.

 

[IT Minion]

But most importantly it's a pull factor,

Wasn't there a government report on pull factors? It doesn't read like this would make any real difference. So cutting the costs in half sounds fantastic.

Home Office research report on why asylum seekers come to the UK - Free Movement

With many thanks to Donald Campbell for sharing, you can find the Home Office research report on asylum journeys here. It's well worth a read in full but

freemovement.org.uk

 

[gant]

Wasn't there a government report on pull factors? It doesn't read like this would make any real difference. So cutting the costs in half sounds fantastic.

Home Office research report on why asylum seekers come to the UK - Free Movement

With many thanks to Donald Campbell for sharing, you can find the Home Office research report on asylum journeys here. It's well worth a read in full but

freemovement.org.uk

Is it not the case they can bring their families across once set up. Would seem a very good pull factor.

 

[denso13]

Is it not the case they can bring their families across once set up.

They can apply for that, but they don't have an automatic right. Like most other countries, so doesn't make it a pull factor.

 

[gant]

They can apply for that, but they don't have an automatic right. Like most other countries, so doesn't make it a pull factor.

In your opinion.

 

[denso13]

In your opinion.

No, it's a fact.

 

[gant]

That's some survey that's been carried out to substantiate that fact, impressive given all the different languages involved.

 

[denso13]

That's some survey that's been carried out

What survey? It was just a factual statement.