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Discussion in 'Tiling' started by Growler, 10 Oct 2010.

  1. Growler

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    Gentlemen.

    When I come to grout, do I grout before or after the tiles have been sealed please.

    Now the guy in the shop, sold me LTP colour enhancing stainblock sealer and LTP ironwax satin finish sealer... which first?

    I really like the tiles, lightish, so I don't want to deepen them, unless necessary. Have I got the right stuff or can I get a sealer, that wont deepen them too much.

    Me back's killin' me. :(

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  3. Richard C

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    Not sure what sort of stone tiles they are but if absorbent you must seal before & take care not to be over enthusiastic with the float when grouting, wear through the sealer & you’ll stain the tiles & ruin them; what colour grout are you using? I think whatever sealer you put on them is going to darken them up but I’ve not much experience with sealing natural stone & the effect of different sealers on tile colour, perhaps titic or one of the other pro tillers can advise.

    Are the tiles fixed? Maybe the photo but a couple near the back of the row on the LHS look to be distinctly out of line to me; looking again, the whole row looks to be getting a little wobbly. You need to sort that out or you'll be miles out by the time you reach the wall. :confused:

    Don’t mind yer back, it’s just not use to being in the position your putting it; it’s yer knees you need to worry about & protect. ;)
     
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    The outside rows are only "dry layed" ready for tomorrow if me back'll take it. Me knee's already drilled and cartilaged (real word) .

    The grout is Jasine white richard c.

    I want it right :D

    How you guys tile...beats me. :mad:
     
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    Jasmine White :oops:
     
  6. Richard C

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    That would explain it ;)

    Your choice entirely of course but your making a mistake wide joint grouting with such a light colour, I always advise against using white grout on floors, even in bathrooms. In a conservatory where mud grass & god knows what else will get trodden in from the garden it will start to look grubby in a very short time.
     
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  8. Growler

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    r.c

    It's taken me ages to pick this lot and I love 'em.

    I'm a sad git that lives alone, so it'll be alright with just me and the odd stray

    ;)
     
  9. tictic

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    havent used LTP products for some time now...
    ok ere way go growler.. ;)

    you will fix the tiles,and try and do this with min off mess,work clean,have a bucket of clean water and wipe any adhesive from the tiles as you go.

    now the stainblock and the ironwax are solvent based(hence the reason i dont use them)..do a test area first(in a corner)to see how it looks when applied to a small bit of a tile,colour change etc..

    you will apply the sealer with a small paintbrush or small roller very thinly..in one direction..dont apply to much or it will thicken up..(will look like gloss paint thats been applied to thick and quickly).

    let it dry about 2-3hrs...
    then grout, again work cleanly and wash as you go (the tiles not the grout lines)
    after grout has set 15min-30min(depends if you have souped it)

    then apply 2nd coat in the oppisite direction from the 1st coat.
    then after a few hrs you will do a water test(pour some droplets of water over the tiles if they pond ontop of tiles job done,if the tile absorbs then apply another coat..

    after writting all this mate i would advise you look into aquamix products.
    either their.
    sealer choice gold or
    penetrating sealer.
    these are waterbased sealer and are excellent for stone(i use them..lol)
    the process is the same as above.

    oh and dont have your ufh switched on when applying any sealer..no heat tranfering up at all.
     
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  11. Growler

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    Brill advice tictic. I shall do as you say, inbetween hanging off my inversion table (me back):(
    Much appreciated.
     
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