must toilet be on outside wall?

[toffee]

I have the rules quickly for these forums, however.. I hope it is ok to post on many different topics?? its just that neither my hubby or I are DIY experts and are currently getting work done all over the house and new extension and are needing lots of help... i have just found this site and we.... I have so many questions!
Im getting a new bathroom fitted. the window in the bathroom is not frosted as it looks out onto our garden and then a field. Problem being.. the new layout suggests the toilet being below the window and the sink on the wall opposite. I struggle to use a few words when I can use a hundred but I will try and be concise. to put the toilet on the inside wall will mean that it it 3 meters from the outside wall. How big of a problem is this? I know that we are not supposed to ask about pricing on here but how much more are we talking to do this? I would rather have the sink below the window than the toilet!!!! help appreciated.

 

[Belle427]

i dont think its a major issue as long as you can make the plumbing and waste pipes look tidy afterwards

 

[bab]

Its quite possible u will be able to do that. if the joists run the right way you might be able to run the soilpipe under the floor. if not it will have to run inside the bathroom & it be boxed in.could cost ya £150 -200 more its a guess sat here. Lots of brews & bickies may help,

 

[toffee]

excuse my total ignorance re plumbing.. but when you say about making it look tidy, Im not sure what this entails? would the pipe to the outside not just go under the floor boards and then out through hole in the wall? Im asking at the risk of looking stupid if its not as simple as this... its just that when I suggested it to the plumber he said it will be much more expensive if you dont put your toilet on an outside wall..??

 

[bab]

to much more expensive is code for LAZEY BAS

 

[toffee]

thanks all.

 

[breezer]

excuse my total ignorance re plumbing.. but when you say about making it look tidy, Im not sure what this entails? would the pipe to the outside not just go under the floor boards and then out through hole in the wall?

In theory that is a good idea, but not always practicable (?)

i shall expalin (as you mentioned you know nothing about diy)

your floorboards are fixed to joists

joists are really just thick and wide long bits of wood

lets say the joists will run from left to right (shortest distance)

the floor boards will be at 90 degrees to the joists (they would fall in if there wern't)

to run the toilet waste pipe under the floor means it has to run the same way the joists go (you cant cut a big hole in joists) to let the pipe go "across" the joists

so if you put the toilet in a different place the waste pipe must still go in the same direction as the joists, then when outside more plumbing will be required to bring it around to your main waste pipe (not to mention the "fall of the pipe)

but putting the toilet on an outside wall(probably next to main waste pipe) means no joists to worry about and pipe strait into main waste pipe

The reason costs are not liked by the mods is simple (as i see it)

some one says job is say £200 you get quote and say it is £400, you do not have a leg to stand on (you cant say but on diy not they said it was..... ) because it depends on where you are in the country (different area different rates, access to the job etc
there was a similar post recently about the charge of a job, some said it was cheap some expensive

 

[toffee]

I feel quite stupid about the joist stuff, after having read your explanation. Its obvious I guess. I know women get mocked for being ignorant about such things (I know that there are also many women out there who are very competent at DIY stuff!!!) and I have to admit that I have no knowledge about most things DIY. I walk about on the floors having absolutely no idea of what is beneath them nor how they stay up.however, I have gone to check on 'my joists' and they do run the wrong way. So I guess I'll have to buy a blind for the bathroom window after all.
I am wanting to put up a pully to hang pans on(nothing to do with plumbing I know but hang fire) and didnt know about how to get the screws into the 'joist'. thanks to this reply, I now at least know which direction they run in as kitchen is under the bathroom. just a little thing I know but hey... you have to crawl before you can run! Its actually quite interesting finding out practical stuff. I might be a budding DIY ist yet!
though Im probably the type where a little knowledge is dangerous! My hubby will be dreading coming home to find me attempting to plumb in the new bathroom, thinking myself an expert, saying " its okay darling, I know which way the joists run and I'm wearing my unchippable nail varnish!" (neither of us are knowledgable about DIY but at least Im trying to find out)
Joking aside, Im glad I found this site and thanks again for help to date.