Napit Assessment
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Had mine today, really nice chap came out, spent 90% of the time chatting and ended up doing Zs and RCD on 2 x Socket Outlets
That is not very comprehensive. Is that for the domestic installer scheme?
Do you have C&G 2391?
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Makes even more of a mockery of Nappit...
It's no wonder every man and his dog can get it
Do NAPIT have a DI scheme? Is that what this is?
Had mine today, really nice chap came out, spent 90% of the time chatting and ended up doing Zs and RCD on 2 x Socket Outlets
Is it for defined scope? Where you can self certify limited electrical work in connection with your main trade?
Come on we are all itching to get more info???
full scope!
Yes I have 2391, I believe (to a certain degree) you can judge someones competence by talking to them.
We spent a couple of hours discussing regs and paperwork etc, had a few questions to answer and I obviously demonstrated I knew what I was talking about
Yes I have 2391, I believe (to a certain degree) you can judge someones competence by talking to them.
We spent a couple of hours discussing regs and paperwork etc, had a few questions to answer and I obviously demonstrated I knew what I was talking about
You can judge a persons competence by discussion of that there is no doubt and that counts for a lot. But you either have C&G2391 or you don't. 2391 is a pass or fail there is no graded result.
EDIT, I may have misread your reply. So you have C&G 2391 but is your NAPIT membership full scope domestic only?
You understand why I am asking, those tests are very simple. We are NICEIC approved contractors and have to show as many as five jobs in some detail over an entire day.
Yes you did mis read my post.
I do have the 2391, I agree Zs and RCD on a socket outlet is very basic, I did show him 3 jobs I'd done, PIR, Replacement Consumer Unit and Installation of Downlighters.
He viewed the work, looked through certificates and was happy, I was surprised it was so simple but not complaining.
This is not a domestic installer scheme, this is full scope
EDIT
Job 4 upgrade earth to gas and water
I do have the 2391, I agree Zs and RCD on a socket outlet is very basic, I did show him 3 jobs I'd done, PIR, Replacement Consumer Unit and Installation of Downlighters.
He viewed the work, looked through certificates and was happy, I was surprised it was so simple but not complaining.
This is not a domestic installer scheme, this is full scope
EDIT
Job 4 upgrade earth to gas and water
I see, thanks. The three jobs you showed are certainly representative of domestic work but does this mean that you can also promote yourself for commercial & industrial work and issue NAPIT certs for such work?
Please don't think I am nit-picking, I am just interested in how other schemes operate. Have been with the NIC for donkeys years and I know that they would not issue an approved contractor status without seeing a regular commercial/industrial spectrum of work. NIC do have full scope but that refers to full scope domestic.
taken from their website
Full Electrical Member, covering the Domestic, Commercial and Industrial Sectors
(This also satisfies the requirements of the NAPIT Full Scope Scheme under license from the DCLG)
The Full Electrical Member Category is intended for Competent Electricians or Electrical Engineers working in any sector of the industry:
Full Electrical Member, covering the Domestic, Commercial and Industrial Sectors
(This also satisfies the requirements of the NAPIT Full Scope Scheme under license from the DCLG)
The Full Electrical Member Category is intended for Competent Electricians or Electrical Engineers working in any sector of the industry:
Thanks for that, I must admit I am amazed and somewhat disappointed that any of the registration organisations would allow commercial/industrial approval based upon seeing limited domestic work. I'm not getting at you but at the system. I certainly take on board that you had a full discussion with the inspector and that you have C&G2391 but I can say from experience that the NIC are a little more demanding. The initial and yearly inspections take up the whole day and are quite comprehensive. I suppose that if you do any commercial/industrial work then they would want to inspect it next year so maybe it all comes out equal in the wash.
Surely your annual assessment doesnt involve proving you know how to test though more like this is what I installed and here is the certificate with some sample Zs to show the results are not made up?
You've proved you know how to test from the previous assessment?
You've proved you know how to test from the previous assessment?
Yes, only on the initial inspection do they test for competency for each "qualified supervisor" On the yearly visits they usually ask us to repeat at least one test per job (5 jobs) to show that what is recorded on the cert matches that of the actual circuit. That could be Zs or R1+R2 or R2 etc.
They also go over paperwork/certs etc.
My point is on the initial visit they are looking to test competency across the spectrum of work that you declare that you do as a business. You can not do commercial/industrial/PIRs etc, etc without being separately assessed for them (well you can but you wont get access to the appropriate NICEIC certs and you can't use their name is association with the work) If on the first visit you only show domestic work then you will only get domestic installer status, not approved contractor status.
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