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That is a good point. Peeps been moaning for years that the parties are all the same. I guess it's "old labour" now??
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That is a good point. Peeps been moaning for years that the parties are all the same. I guess it's "old labour" now??
A genuine opposition is one that can pose a threat.
That is why he is a bad choice, his policies are so poorly thought out, un-costed / impracticable he will either end up looking a fool or doing a U-turn.
That is why he is a bad choice, his policies are so poorly thought out, un-costed / impracticable he will either end up looking a fool or doing a U-turn.
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No. A genuine opposition would oppose the Iraq war and the regime change in Libya. That's why we now have ISIS. Cheers chaps. All interested in selling arms and becoming advisers. All Tories, Blair/Brown and their ilk. Now we have a real opposition. You don't have to vote for him Aron. What exactly are you afraid of? Keep on reading your Tory rags, they are doing a fine job of brainwashing you.
Well, Jeremy has single handedly made the Labour party unelectable for the next general election. So I suppose we have to be grateful for small mercies. 
Yes Michael Foot comes to mind, a total disaster.
Some people seem to be forgetting that Labour has just lost an election, quite disasterously - presumably unelectable.
Continuing on that path would have been better - how?
The electoral system (for leader) was specially devised to try and ensure that the result was as they wished it to be, but they got that wrong, too.
Continuing on that path would have been better - how?
The electoral system (for leader) was specially devised to try and ensure that the result was as they wished it to be, but they got that wrong, too.
They moved to the left, which was not liked, so they now move further to the left, on the understanding that the problem was that they were too far to the right. I beg to differ. Most British people are apathetic, and only really care about themselves, but are decent enough. I don't think they want extremes.
They did lose in 2010 as well.
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Camoron says that Corbyn is threat to national security and a danger to your family, it wasn't Corbyn who overseen the flooding of the country with record numbers of migrants,it wasn't Corbyn who bombed Libya and created a hotbed of terrorism so who is the real threat.
Perfectly true. But he has said quite openly that he wants more.
I think the real cause of the upsurge in terrorism was the invasion of Iraq, an invasion too far. The Americans planned to win, then leave. Removing the Iraqi army leadership left a power vacuum, and civil war broke out. It was wilful incompetence. The Yanks just did't gibpve a toss about the people. And drew in terrorists. The Syrian and Libyan wars were started when the people rose up. Yes the Tories seem to have ballsed up over Libya.
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People seem to forget that although Churchill was seen as the saviour of Britain during the war, he was unceremoniously dumped by the electorate for the Attlee led Labour Party after the war. What goes around comes around - the same thing will happen at the next election. This is the real reason the Tories are squealing, they can see the writing on the wall.
It goes back further than that. It all started when the first Gulf war wasn't properly finished. Just like Woodrow Wilson at the end of WW1, Bush pulled the plug too early. If the Allies had gone in and sorted it then - which is what most Iraqis wanted - the second Gulf war wouldn't have happened and things would now look quite different.