some how they seem to have managed, even with chronic sickness levels amongst the existing staff.
Nightingale Hospital has turned away more patients than it has treated
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Why are there chronic sickness levels amongst NHS Staff?
Good question. They have been inclined to say could have caught CV19 out of hospital, we are doing a study. Watching TV reports of what it is like where patients are being treated it's not hard to see why some one might get infected irrespective of front line PPE. Usually they go through a door to where that gear is needed. Outside that and they are in fairly confined spaces. Size varies. They did trace back infections in the alps. One person infected 30% of the people in the room.
I should have said chronic 'absence' amongst nhs staff.
At a guess, the chronic absence has been related to the pandemic that world is facing. FFS.
Or is this your lead in to attributing the worldwide shortage of PPE directly to our government?
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Would it not make more sense to put the covid patients all in the nightingales, and the non - covids in the existing hospitals?
Labs that are studying CV have very specialised controls, ppe, and decontamination procedures.
It would be easier to replicate this in a dedicated facility (a Nightingale), which would make it safer for the staff too.
Good practice becomes habit through repetition, so the staff would be better protected, through reduction of exposure.
Good clinical results could be better shared among the cases present.
The existing hospitals (which have to be many things to all men) could get on with that.
Labs that are studying CV have very specialised controls, ppe, and decontamination procedures.
It would be easier to replicate this in a dedicated facility (a Nightingale), which would make it safer for the staff too.
Good practice becomes habit through repetition, so the staff would be better protected, through reduction of exposure.
Good clinical results could be better shared among the cases present.
The existing hospitals (which have to be many things to all men) could get on with that.
I believe the existing hospitals have already been altered around. I know my neice's hospital have designated red and green zones. Some hospitals have moved sections around so 1 floor is dedicated to covid.
I cant see how the nightingale hospitals can be much use for the broad requirements of a normal hospital -other than respite wards for the elderly.
I already said as much
They won't have fracture clinics, dispensaries, theatres.... the list goes on.
Repeating myself, leave the existing as "cold" (or green), and the nightingales as "hot" (red).
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The problem with that approach is the people who are mild to severe probably have other underlying health conditions so you need cross functional teams. How do you deal with a renal patient who has covid - put them in the Nightingale - but what happens when they need dialysis or their Liver cirrhossis deteriorates? Do the specialists run over to the Nighingale or do you rush a sick patient back into the Hospital?
The biggest error everyone makes about hospital patients is homogenising them - well they all have Covid put them in the Nightingale.
The biggest error everyone makes about hospital patients is homogenising them - well they all have Covid put them in the Nightingale.
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Don't replace stockpiles with contracts for delivery. Not very smart.
Depends what's the greatest threat to their life but, and I stand by it, using the nightingales for covid only is also safest for those treating them.
What do you think a nightingale should be for then?
Pick, pick, pick.
Are you asking Gally for a solution? You should know that all he can do is criticise the government. That’s all that gets him out of bed in the morning.
Motties accurate and detailed refutation of the charges of incompetence and dishonesty laid against out government:
Not very convincing, is it?
Not very convincing, is it?
How about coming up with what they can do and not what they should/should not have done? Otherwise you’re just pick, pick, picking.
Not very constructive or helpful, is it?
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