no its because of the stress caused by working in an environment where the Tories have stripped it bare so staff are pressured to work long hours and morale is low.
Nightingale Hospital has turned away more patients than it has treated
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Big waste of time and money these Nightingale hospitals eh?
Well, it’s good news that the Nightingales are being stood down. Not needed now as the NHS have coped and have spare capacity in many ICU's. That must be a right kick in the teeth to Gally, Notchy, Nosey, Ellie and big JohnD isn’t it - I bet they are gutted. 
mottie is being silly again.
I wonder where the extra staff will come from to run these empty hospitals. The existing ones are short of staff and equipment. Perhaps the "50,000 extra nurses" can do it.
Ooops, my mistake. They don't exist.
I wonder where the extra staff will come from to run these empty hospitals. The existing ones are short of staff and equipment. Perhaps the "50,000 extra nurses" can do it.
Ooops, my mistake. They don't exist.
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yes it quite possible to achieve that when you leave covid patients in care homes and dont admit them to hospital
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Ouch, but a fair point imo.
Same as other people who died at home because they weren't admitted to hospital in time.
Given that the UK is rapidly approaching having the highest infection rates and fatalities in Europe, and given that people on here allude to our healthcare system being among the worst in Europe, it seems a little strange that the NHS has coped remarkably well with capacity to spare, to the point the nightingale facilities weren't required, when the healthcare systems of Spain and Italy were at the point of collapse. Why?
Unfortunately the NHS appears to have coped because they have drastically scaled back treatment for other diseases. For example, people needing cancer treatment and operations have had them cancelled. These cancellations will cause many deaths as cancers that may have been operable/treatable will spread because of the delayed treatment. These deaths are the hidden cost of the Chinese Coronavirus.
Didn't anyone ever wonder where the NHS managed to magic up thousands of extra beds for Covid patients when it is normall over capacity?
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I do get that, and it's a tragedy obviously, but did Spain and Italy carry on booking in operations amid all that chaos?
you mean, they were hardly used, which is not at all the same thing.
There were insufficient staff to make them operational.
That's why, of all the people who died of CV, only about half had been admitted to hospital.
Did you think the country was awash with spare hospital workers and equipment?
Don't know about what arrangements they made in other countries, but I would imagine that there would have been some scaling back of other treatments. However, some healthcare systems in other countries were in a better shape than ours prior to the pandemic.
That's a horrible statistic John, hopefully, when there is an independent enquiry, they can establish roughly how many were refused admission and how many stayed at home not expecting death as the outcome. Either way it's a tragedy, and it would need to be a brave govt to skimp on NHS funding going forward, let's hope something positive comes out of all this sh1t.
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Well, it’s good news that the Nightingales are being stood down. Not needed now as the NHS have coped and have spare capacity in many ICU's. That must be a right kick in the teeth to Gally, Notchy, Nosey, Ellie and big JohnD isn’t it - I bet they are gutted.
You want to rewrite history again. The Nighingales did not address a problem - a shortage of trained staff. The staff was better off staying in the NHS hospital than being transferred. On top people were left to die in nursing homes so never made it into the Hospitals.
Perhaps if you learned to read something more than the DM you would learn a little.
https://www.ft.com/content/09897050-13bc-4ebe-99af-25b8d2ab5781
To be admitted to one of its 4,000 beds, patients must need full ventilation but no other specialist support, a rubric that excludes patients with multiple organ failure or pregnant women, for example, because they do not have the specialist staff or equipment. One north London doctor complained that the Nightingale was “meant to exist to offload patients” when other hospitals were overwhelmed. “When you’ve got something that doesn’t do that it’s a waste of resources. It feels like they’re just cherry picking those patients less likely to die,” she added. One critical care doctor said that, as he and his fellow medics had learned more about the disease, they realised patients were likely to need renal or surgical support, which the Nightingale was not equipped to provide.
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Your operation is in the post.
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