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sooey";p="2745135 said:
Yet wobs posted earlier with statistics showing that more mothers kill their children than fathers.

Yes and guess what, those statistics (if they are right) showed that more mothers kill their children than fathers. Which is hardly surprising considering that overwhelmingly more mothers are left to look after their children than fathers.
Which when you look at the context that this
Yes, overwhelmingly men more than women.
was posted in reply to
How do you know she didn't do it out of spite? Parents have been known to do such things.
I can1t recall any case of a mother killing her kids out of spite for the Fatheryou will realise that this
Craig McLelland left Fiona Anderson a month ago.
That still did not give her the excuse to murder her children.
 
Craig McLelland left Fiona Anderson a month ago.
That still did not give her the excuse to murder her children.

No, but if you've got any kind of a clue how hard it is to look after two babies 24/7 then you would understand that looking after three would be too much for most people on their own. Imagine trying to do it while heavily pregnant.
Is it any wonder she couldn't see a future? Is it any wonder the poor girl went over the edge. Don't judge her because I'll tell you now you wouldn't have lasted a week in her shoes, nor would I.
 
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But one thing I know for certain, whatever mental problems that girl may or may not have had, she needed the father with her, with three babies to look after and heavily pregnant with another.

WHAT ???. After she'd stabbed him? What bloke in his right mind is gonna stay? Bloody hell sooey, time you got out of that secure environment you live in.
 
WHAT ???. After she'd stabbed him? What bloke in his right mind is gonna stay? Bloody hell sooey, time you got out of that secure environment you live in.

I give up. She stabbed him the night before she killed herself and her babies. He left her weeks before that. Are you really this stupid joinerjohn, or are you just playing thick for some weird reason?
 
How do you know that this was the very first time she used violence towards this poor chap (or has that been in the Daily Mail?) Perhaps she had a history of violence towards him (but you wouldn't think that counts would you?) By heck , you'd make a typical magistrate sooey. You'd find men guilty before they even entered the courthouse.
All of your posts (and mine ) are based on supposition. You suppose he's only left her for someone else and therefore he's an utter b'stard. I suppose you've married your childhood sweetheart and live very happily in each others arms , day after day? She must be the only girlfriend you've ever had, because it doesn't sound like you've known the heartache of splitting up with someone through no fault of your own.
We both don't know what happens behind closed doors though. Perhaps I'm a bit cynical, but I don't believe for one minute, this poor chap should shoulder almost all of the blame for this tragic event. Neither of us know whether she killed the children through spite. One thing we do know,, she alone, cut short these children's lives.
 
because it doesn't sound like you've known the heartache of splitting up with someone through no fault of your own.

So you were completely blameless then? :shock:
You are wrong about me as a matter of fact, without going into too much detail I split up with the mother of my children when they were 8 and 13. But I wouldn't make the claim that I was completely blameless and no, I wasn't playing away either. I don't want to digress into a discussion about that btw it's beside the point.
Let's just say that that experience hasn't stopped me from seeing the bigger picture, I think yours has with you.
 
Dunno sooey, how can I be to blame for my wife straying when I was working day/afternoon and night shift in a factory? Yes I knew the heartache of getting into bed in the morning, knowing someone else had slept in it only hours before I returned home. Was it my fault for having a job that involved night shift? I dunna think so, somehow. There again, you'll probably blame me for giving her the opportunity, by having a job and being out of the house for 9 hours every week day/night, keeping the roof over our heads. Sad innit.
 
Life's a bi*ch joinerjohn, most of us could tell a sad story I expect, but they have no bearing on this topic. That doesn't mean I don't sympathise, but a young girl with a three year old, a two year old and an eleven month old to look after with another coming isn't going to be looking anywhere else.
She'd be too shattered to do anything else at all, when did she sleep???
Like I said, she needed the father with her, helping her. He begat those kids, he should have been there, simple as that.
 
Now you are talking BS. You think looking after 3 kids with another on the way is that hard? How on earth do you think the human race has survived as a species if people way back in history, didn't cope with even more kids than she had? Honestly I've never heard such crap in all my life. Ohh she couldn't cope... Well people have coped with more kids than that (and on their own) and didn't resort to taking their kids lives and their own Seems to me she was a rather weak willed individual, heavily reliant upon her partner. (who probably felt trapped in the relationship)
Don't get me wrong, I do sympathise with her plight, but to do what she did was rather extreme, and as I said previously, we just don't know the full story, so it's a bit early to judge who was right or wrong. I just feel your being very unfair to the chap who's just lost his children, by blaming him.
 
Now you are talking BS. You think looking after 3 kids with another on the way is that hard? How on earth do you think the human race has survived as a species if people way back in history, didn't cope with even more kids than she had? Honestly I've never heard such crap in all my life. Ohh she couldn't cope... Well people have coped with more kids than that (and on their own) and didn't resort to taking their kids lives and their own Seems to me she was a rather weak willed individual, heavily reliant upon her partner.

With that paragraph joinerjohn you have just proved conclusively that you really haven't got a clue what you're talking about.
 
Ahhh, I see now, you have problems reading ? Have you considered an ESOL course? (thought they were compulsory in Scouseland) :wink: :wink:
 
Life's a bi*ch joinerjohn, most of us could tell a sad story I expect, but they have no bearing on this topic. That doesn't mean I don't sympathise, but a young girl with a three year old, a two year old and an eleven month old to look after with another coming isn't going to be looking anywhere else.
She'd be too shattered to do anything else at all, when did she sleep???
Like I said, she needed the father with her, helping her. He begat those kids, he should have been there, simple as that.

She needed an education, a career, a mortgage and a husband. When she reached 30 she may even consider motherhood.

We don't need uneducated chavs popping out kids for the taxpayer to fund all their lives. Simples.
 
Yeah you're right joe, of course you are. But that doesn't help anyone who is in that situation does it? Far too many as you say.
joinerjohn, your sheer 'density' flabberghasts me, over and out.
 
Are you really this stupid joinerjohn, or are you just playing thick for some weird reason?

It was a retarded question to ask, seeing as I'd posted it.
Don't ask stupid questions and you might get less insulting answers.
Says the idiot who posted this
A few examples of insults from Sooey. He/she has been the main person in this thread to insult people.

I'm intrigued how you think that insults help your position in anyway. If anything it does the opposite.

Yes, I thought you must be posting on this from an agenda(a few others too I think),
Projection
 
Are you really this stupid joinerjohn, or are you just playing thick for some weird reason?

It was a retarded question to ask, seeing as I'd posted it.
Don't ask stupid questions and you might get less insulting answers.
Says the idiot who posted this
A few examples of insults from Sooey. He/she has been the main person in this thread to insult people.

I'm intrigued how you think that insults help your position in anyway. If anything it does the opposite.

Yes, I thought you must be posting on this from an agenda(a few others too I think),
Projection

I, too, have been on the receiving end of Sooey's insulting language. If he thinks he has upset me, he's going to be disappointed. I can't imagine he impresses anyone by doing it.
 
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