Omicron variant caught a cold

[AngleEyes]

I don’t think that’s quite the intention.

Yes, I should have said "use the vaccine passport for those not infected and vaccinated"
Thanks for pointing out my omission.

 

[Deleted member 292770]

True, but the likelihood of any of that happening is greatly reduced.
Wouldn't you want to, and encourage others, to take whatever measures are necessary to greatly reduce the risk of becoming severely ill ,and/or dying?
Not to mention catching a virus and passing it on to others who also then acquire that greater risk through no fault of their own?



FFS, having a passport makes not one iota of difference to catching Covid. It merely makes it possible to participate in society if you've had the vaccine.


But as just said above, the risk of a) catching it, b) being severely ill from it, c) dying from it, d) passing it on to others and e) adding to the number of variants (anyone one of each could always be worse than the previous) is greatly reduced if you've had the vaccine.
If you're not interested in helping to protect others, it's highly irresponsible to exploit conspiracy theories in the hope of persuading others to be equally irresponsible.
Perhaps you just don't want to be irresponsible all on your own and you need the company and support of other irresponsible people.

loaded with contradictions . fool

 

[AngleEyes]

loaded with contradictions . fool

Well, highlight them.
And if you have to resort to insults, your arguments were groundless.

 

[Deleted member 292770]

Well, highlight them.
And if you have to resort to insults, your arguments were groundless.

To be fair I only read the first paragraph. That was enough. You can’t even see your own contradictions.

 

[Justin Passing]

South Africa is almost entirely Omicron now, why do you assume none of the deaths are Omicron?

Because that's what they said, explicitly, yesterday, in the reference I gave.
It does seem surprising. Their daily deaths haven't done anything much, they're at 24 a day right now.(Dec 14).
They could be lying, incompetent etc, true, so do we believe 24?
Their rapid rise in cases started started getting reported 3 weeks ago.
Deaths can come more than 2 weeks after first infection ( but they sort of stop associating deaths at 28 days), so of course expect more.
Even so, 24 is "nothing".
If you listen to the CDC, you're 14 times more likely to die of δ if you're unvaccinated. So about 2, then...
Worldometers: That highest peak is at 839 a day.
Daily deaths SA: up to Dec 14

tThe small spike at Nov 24 is 114/day.

Sure they have a "younger demographic", but they aren't all young..
We have 2-3 times as many oldies - tried to match scales here -wrong graphics program

 

[denso13]

Well, highlight them.

You expect the antivaxxer brigade to answer questions or back up what they claim?? You must be new here.

 

[AngleEyes]

To be fair I only read the first paragraph. That was enough. You can’t even see your own contradictions.

You only read a fraction of my comment, and on that basis you claim there were contradictions.
Well come on then, read the rest and show us the contradictions that you claim were there.

 

[AngleEyes]

You expect the antivaxxer brigade to answer questions or back up what they claim?? You must be new here.

Sorry, I obviously over-estimated him.

 

[Vinty]

Why? No one knows quite yet how serious omicron will turn out to be. Do you not read the news?

Aren't the unvaccinated more at risk of serious illness and death than the vaccinated.
Isn't it likely that if there is an explosion in case numbers, then those unvaccinated folks who have managed to dodge covid will get caught up in that explosion.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Aren't the unvaccinated more at risk of serious illness and death than the vaccinated.
Isn't it likely that if there is an explosion in case numbers, then those unvaccinated folks who have managed to dodge covid will get caught up in that explosion.

No doubt they will look for someone else to blame, than accepting the blame for their own decision.

 

[denso13]

Aren't the unvaccinated more at risk of serious illness and death than the vaccinated.

Yes, that's not the same as saying lots of the anti vaxxers will die because of omicron, we just don't know that yet.

Isn't it likely that if there is an explosion in case numbers, then those unvaccinated folks who have managed to dodge covid will get caught up in that explosion.

Two explosions, talk about the MSM being hysterical...

 

[Vinty]

Two explosions, talk about the MSM being hysterical...[/QUOTE]
I used the word If in my post.

 

[ajohn]

Deaths can come more than 2 weeks after first infection ( but they sort of stop associating deaths at 28 days), so of course expect more.

The UK still counts the deaths up to the longer period as well. requested by the medics as they know some one didn't fall down and break a neck after testing etc. In practice there isn't that much difference between the 2 numbers.

 

[IT Minion]

There's no reason to assume Omicron is more or less dangerous than Delta yet.

Covid kills around 1 in 100 unvaccinated people, give or take. Which means there'll be around 99 of each hundred antivaxers pointing out that it's all a hoax and nothing more than a cold. Even if there's another 1-50,000 unvaccinated dead bodies racked up in morgues.

 

[ajohn]

They have tentatively suggesting that maybe up to 1m people have been carrying the virus recently. Obviously that will relate to hospital use etc. Double that number and the other numbers will increase as well. It can only be an estimate though.