Pensioner Winter Fuel Payment - I just don't get it?

[Jurassicspark]

Paying extra money to people who don't need it, and to people who are better off than younger working people struggling on less, has always been silly.

Really? What do you mean by "extra money" and how?

Higher pension income on paper does not invariably mean someone doesn’t need financial help. Don't many pensioners face unavoidable costs like long term care, medical treatments, mobility aids, and home adaptations that probably would quickly eat into their disposable income.

For example, someone with what looks like a comfortable pension might be spending thousands each year on care home fees or specialist healthcare not covered by the NHS. These unpredictable expenses can leave them struggling to afford basics like heating, food, or clothing.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Mine came in a white window envelope.

So did mine, unusually. Most such letters from government departments, arrive in brown envelopes.

 

[JohnD]

What do you mean by "extra money" and how?

If you usually receive £200 a week, and in December you receive an additional £10, and in November you receive an additional £200, I have no difficulty in describing that as "extra money."

 

[Jurassicspark]

If you usually receive £200 a week, and in December you receive an additional £10, and in November you receive an additional £200, I have no difficulty in describing that as "extra money."

Higher pension income on paper does not invariably mean someone doesn’t need financial help.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Really? What do you mean by "extra money" and how?

Higher pension income on paper does not invariably mean someone doesn’t need financial help. Don't many pensioners face unavoidable costs like long term care, medical treatments, mobility aids, and home adaptations that probably would quickly eat into their disposable income.

The UK's state pension, is some of the poorest in Europe, combined with the UK one of the more expensive places to live. Old age, is a time when you are less likely to be able to minimise your living costs, because you are even more in a position where you have to 'get a man in', for many things.

More time at home, in the cold weather, age, and less ability to be active, means you need more heat in the home, and for longer periods, than if you were out at work all day. Many are also living in low efficiency homes. That extra demand, boost the bills.

Rather than being 'extra money', it is to many 'essential money' to help keep pensioners alive, and token, support them through the colder months.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

The UK's state pension, is some of the poorest in Europe, combined with the UK one of the more expensive places to live. Old age, is a time when you are less likely to be able to minimise your living costs, because you are even more in a position where you have to 'get a man in', for many things.

More time at home, in the cold weather, age, and less ability to be active, means you need more heat in the home, and for longer periods, than if you were out at work all day. Many are also living in low efficiency homes. That extra demand, boost the bills.

Rather than being 'extra money', it is to many 'essential money' to help keep pensioners alive, and token, support them through the colder months.

And it is extra money.

It's not all year round. It's extra, for the extra costs.

The issue is where should the cutoff be to qualify.

 

[JohnD]

Higher pension income on paper does not invariably mean someone doesn’t need financial help.

Is that supposed to disprove my assertion that it is extra money?

Or is it supposed to prove that only pensioners need financial help? And only for one month in winter?

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Or is it supposed to prove that only pensioners need financial help?

Lots of people need help, but pensioners are the ones least able to help themselves.

And only for one month in winter?

No, it called 'the winter', meant to help out financially, for all the colder months. Would you expect the payment to be paid, individually for each of the cold months, maybe /6?

 

[Brigadier]

Pensioner Winter Fuel Payment - I just don't get it?

Because you're too well off to need it?

 

[JohnD]

Lots of people need help, but pensioners are the ones least able to help themselves.

You've never heard of disability?

You've never met the parent of a chronically sick child?

You've never known a breadwinner unable to support his family?

 

[morqthana]

Call 'em what you like - I’m talking about people who employ other people and pay them. Businesses basically. Yes, those. You wouldn’t be saying that if you ran a small business, took on an employee who went sick or fùcked you around from day one and you knew you would have a world of grief and expense just trying to get rid of them. This Day 1 rights for employees is a shirkers dream come true.

I can see how someone who wants to treat his employees UNFAIRLY would think that.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

You've never heard of disability?

I am classed as disabled, you fool, as well as a pensioner!

 

[morqthana]

You've never heard of disability?

He's heard of what he calls workshy malingering.

You've never met the parent of a chronically sick child?

He's met parents of children who are a bit fidgety who have managed to game that into getting free cars.

You've never known a breadwinner unable to support his family?

He's always known that people like that are lazy, and choose a life on benefits.

 

[JohnD]

I am classed as disabled, you fool, as well as a pensioner!

Strangely you assume that pensioners are the section of society most in need.

This is not true.

You fool.

 

[morqthana]

Notch has grown bored with insulting posters

does your wife know you post AI images of sexual abuse involving young girls on the internet?