Pensions, ISAs and Houses

[HawkEye244]

there's a big problem with the cost of social care for our increasingly old population.

UK citizens mostly aren't interested in working as carers, and the anti-foreigner oldies are doing their best to prevent or discourage those who are willing to do it.

The money to pay for it has to come from somewhere.

Most likely from the wealth of those people who've been able to accumulate it.

Mostly John because care work is a disgusting and thankless job. And believe me I know people that have done it and it's one of the most underpaid and souless jobs you can find in this country. And that's why people don't want to do it. Especially end of life care.a

The bottom line is we don't value the elderly. We like to ship them off as soon as possible. In some cultures like China the elderly person is looked after by their own family... Can you believe it ....

 

[JohnD]

I am aware of that

Also, it is mostly done by foreigners coming to this country to do the jobs the Brits won't.

Luckily the current anti-foreigner policies are reducing the availability of such people.

Tough for the Express readers. Coincidentally many of them are anti-foreigner and anti-tax.

 

[HawkEye244]

I am aware of that

Also, it is mostly done by foreigners coming to this country to do the jobs the Brits won't.

Luckily the current anti-foreigner policies are reducing the availability of such people.

Tough for the Express readers. Coincidentally many of them are anti-foreigner and anti-tax.

It's the price paid for the gradual erosion of family principles and the family unit over the past few decades. Divorce rates are on the up and up. Increase in single parent families. There has been a break down in the family unit. What got lost in the post modernist push for gender equality and equal rights is what grounds people - the family. It's a short sighted person that tries to seal a gaping wound with a tiny plaster, which is akin to your arguement about more migrants for sh1t jobs. Take you for example, no family, sitting there in your little flat in your socialist bubble. Ultimately you'll end up like your individualist chums, just another burden to the state.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

The Daily Express suddenly realises Theresa does not have a "magic money tree"
Who'd have thought it
A government running scared.
Older readers who simultaneously want improved public services and don't want to pay for them.

It is another 'kick the problem further down the road' strategy.
The increased spending will look good for the Tories, increasing their popularity, possibly avoiding the Commons defeat tomorrow, but I doubt it.
Then primed for an August General Election, before the electorate realise the impact (and targets) of the tax rises.
Then (TM hoping for an increased majority in Parliament) can push through the hard right Tory Brexit agenda, possibly carrying some middle of the road Tories with them, as well as other parties (who would dare vote against NHS increased funding?).

If tomorrows government defeat does happen, the problem will have been delayed until the 'meaningful' Parliamentary vote, whenever the amendment date arrives.
We have seen how duplicitous and disingenuous TM can be only last week.

The only way to combat such a cynical, duplicitous and disingenuous strategy is to vote other than with the Tories in the 'predicted' August election.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

It's the price paid for the gradual erosion of family principles and the family unit over the past few decades. .... Take you for example, no family, sitting there in your little flat in your socialist bubble. Ultimately you'll end up like your individualist chums, just another burden to the state.

So your first comment exposes your ridiculous assumption over your final comment.
I.e. first comment renders the final comment redundant. It does not matter, according to you whether one has family or not, they will still end up as a burden on the state, in their old age.

Of course, some, who refuse to pay their way, are a burden on the state and the rest of society for the whole of their lives.

 

[pete50]

The Tories never bother to ask, they just steal Labours' ideas.

I am no damn Tory but if you think that this labour mob have any credible ideas then you are living in cloud cuckoo land. But then looking at the contributers to this thread that is a distinct possibility.

 

[JohnD]

credible ideas

you mean like funding public services through tax reform?

H'mmm, let's see if you want to argue with that.

 

[HawkEye244]

So your first comment exposes your ridiculous assumption over your final comment.
I.e. first comment renders the final comment redundant. It does not matter, according to you whether one has family or not, they will still end up as a burden on the state, in their old age.

Of course, some, who refuse to pay their way, are a burden on the state and the rest of society for the whole of their lives.

I'm saying in some cultures the elderly are looked after not shipped off into homes and all the rest. I do make judgment about John and it's wrong of me to assume his situation but he deserves it because he willingly supports a regime that undermines these key principles. Then when he's all alone and nobody wants to look after him for a tiny bit of money he wonders why. And you are likely the same way. You reap the seeds of multiculturalism that you have helped sow. Dont back away now when one of its many major flaws finally affects you negligibly. Nobody to look after you ? Neighbours don't speak English ? Tough. You brought it on yourself.

 

[JohnD]

he willingly supports a regime that undermines these key principles.

No, I don't support the Tory government.

 

[Notch7]

No, I don't support the Tory government.

No, probably a UKIP voter.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

No, probably a UKIP voter.

It looks like eeyore's veterinary nurse has forgotten to give him his anti-silly medicine again.

 

[Notch7]

It looks like eeyore's veterinary nurse has forgotten to give him his anti-silly medicine again.

Are you saying that must be wrong?

Ok second guess, DUP

 

[JohnD]

notch is just trolling, as usual.

 

[Notch7]

notch is just trolling, as usual.

Ill get there in a mo.....Green party?

 

[JohnD]

I think Hawkey calls you an immigrant, and wants you sent home.