Plugging a boiler in?

[ChrisR]

If I (a corgi) change a boiler which is connected to a fused spur, in a kitchen, I need a sparks to test and Notify it. No problem.

All the following are in a kitchen:

1) But suppose it's replacing one which was plugged in to a standard socket outlet. Can I just plug the new one in? (Without sparky?)

1a) If I do that (assuming it doesn't need the sparky) do I then need one if I'm reconnecting a thermostat cable?

2) Suppose it's the first ever boiler, but there's a socket handy. Can I use that?

2a) Then I'm pretty sure the new thermostat cable would mean I need sparky. Correct?

Manufacturer's instructions don't always stipulate a spur, btw.
(And I haven't installed anything since Part P came in!)
Thanks guys.

Edit - I know I Notify the Gas installation (through Corgi), it's just the electric bit I'm asking about.

 

[plugwash]

If I (a corgi) change a boiler which is connected to a fused spur, in a kitchen, I need a sparks to test and Notify it. No problem.

technically for part P compilance, either you have to notify building control or the part P certified electrician (or i belive in some cases one of their employees) has to have done the electrical work. Of course this gets ignored frequently.

it may be a good idea to look into getting into one of the part P self certification schemes yourself, afaict its not that hard if you are reasonablly competant with electrics.

1) But suppose it's replacing one which was plugged in to a standard socket outlet. Can I just plug the new one in? (Without sparky?)

no, the boiler is fixed equipment and therefore notifiable regardless of how it is connected to the electrical supply.

plugging in fixed equipment is not considered very proffessional anyway.

many bodies are claiming that all like for like replacement is not notifable but the law says no such thing so watch out!

1a) If I do that (assuming it doesn't need the sparky) do I then need one if I'm reconnecting a thermostat cable?

there is an exception for work on control wiring but i belive it may not apply to work in kitchens, i don't have the law handy to check.

2) Suppose it's the first ever boiler, but there's a socket handy. Can I use that?

see above

 

[Paul Barker]

Actually Chris a part P course is quite similar to acs, multiple choice with two obviously stupid answers, one right answer and one curve ball answer to slow down your progress, but obvious enough if you have a reasonable intelect.

You could get 95% right with your marvelous mind, and look the rest up, I am quite sure.

Not bragging but just say it so you know, when I did it a year ago EAL level 2, I raced through every exam the kitchen fitters all called me speedy. Was used to far more pressure with acs I raced at it like you have to the acs and found there was bags of time left waiting in the coffee room for the kitchen fitters, who seem to have no previous experience of this type of exam.

A few of the poor little darlings failed altogether.

Sorry I'm a hard harted *******.

I was prompted to do the training back then when I realised I wasn't even qualified to put a three pin plug on a boiler.

A lot of installers round here use sparkies. I would have loved to have done so, but non of them ever came in time, I had boilers running on wonder leeds all over town for weeks, in the end I just weant and did them myself.

 

[securespark]

If I (a corgi) change a boiler

Don't you find it tricky holding tools with your paws?

 

[Taylortwocities]

 

[dingbat]

Ever the pedant, I'd just like to add that there is no such thing as a Part P course.

 

[ChrisR]

Thanks folks
It's just the money that puts me off. I think I could do the qual which would allow me to change consumer units and whatnot ("A" rather than "B"). Nothing I've seen so far looks hard about it. But with it being thick end of a grand for kit, similar for courses, and then an annual payment, all so I can use it twice a year, it doesn't make much sense.

 

[Taylortwocities]

NAPIT used to have a scheme calles JUST8. That limited u to 8 notifications a year. Dunno if they still do it.

All the other costs are, of course, the same.
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