Powerflush or not

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I have had 3 quotes for fitting a replacement boiler and 1 recommends a power flush the other 2 recommend putting a chemical in the system for sometime before the fitting flushing the system by emptying and refilling a couple of times. These 2 both state that they are not keen on power flushing as it can cause problems.

All 3 recommend an inhibitor and fitting a magnaclean device.

4 bedroom house, 1 bathroom, 10 radiators.

Any thoughts and advice please.

Thanks
 
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..These 2 both state that they are not keen on power flushing as it can cause problems.
Powerflushing, provided it is done correctly, does not cause problems. It may reveal existing problems, but that is a different story.
People that claim it does cause problems are either looking for excuses not to do essential work, or just don't know what they are on about.
Common under plumbers that recommend poor quality ( cheap ) boilers.
 
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A very interesting watch! However, it doesn't mean powerflushes don't work, it does show what kind of expensive job you sometimes get from BG.

Did Tom's client take it up with BG. ?

DID the client pay for a PF?
 
A poor qualtiy video of radiators with gunk in them.
So what? We don't know who did the flushing, how theyd did it, and in fact: we don't even know IF it was really powerflushed.
The quality of the "evidence" is about as poor as the quality of the video.
 
I know that some of his videos are liked by a few people.

Unfortunately, when I see them, most of them make me squirm!
 
What an awful video. He must have to spend more time cleaning pathways and explaining to his customers why their rads are chipped after being shoved up against the wall / dragged along the floor than doing any plumbing.
 
As above, all that shows is that it wasn't done properly.

BG give a lifetime guarantee on powerflushing so they just need to ring them up and get the to come back and sort it.
 
If the BBC ever put anyone sounding like him to read the news they would be swamped with complaints. He is virtually incomprehensible!
 
If the BBC ever put anyone sounding like him to read the news they would be swamped with complaints. He is virtually incomprehensible!

Bolix, are you a snob and don't want to hear regional accents?
 
I dont even know what accent its meant to be but I could understand Charlie Williams MBE but not this fellow!

Luckily the radio channels dont broadcast anyone sounding like him!

Quite apart from that his plumbing practices seem very outdated like using a hammer to repair boilers!
 
Boiler manufacturers require that the system is cleaned to BS5793 before the new boiler goes in.

Adding a chemical before replacement is one of the ways covered by the BS. If that route is taken then the following procedure must be used.

1. Add the chemical and leave the system working as normal (including heating) so that the chemical circulates througout the system. Drain after the chemical makers recommended time (normally between 5 and 10 days dependent upon the make).

2. Isolate water to the f and e tank, drain the system from ALL available drain cocks and open all radiator vents to allow air in and water out.

3. REPEAT AT LEAST ONCE MORE. If the water looks clean during the SECOND drain-down then the boiler swap can go ahead. If it still looks dirty the procedure MUST be carried-out again and again until the water runs clear.


You can see that this will take at least two weeks and three visits prior to the boiler swap itself. In my opinion (and these are only my opinions) VERY FEW boiler engineers will take the time (or be able to charge for that time) to follow that procedure to the letter. However, if it's not done and the boiler maker can prove that it hasn;t been done like that (which is debatable) then they might, just might, refuse to honour their warranty.

More importantly, and I have to point out my bias here, following the above method will eventually remove the magnetite (the small bits of rust that turn the water black/grey) but IT DOES NOT remove the larger bits of rust because the flow of water just id not enough to pick the larger pieces up.

If you phone the tech support for the make of boiler you are going to have they are extremely likely to recommend that a powerflush is done because it is the best way to clean the system. I have come colleagues who do not powerflush before boiler installations, but then they don't have the equipment anyway.

As far as causing problems, I agree with the prevsious post. It may uncvoer existing problems but better it does that when a plumber is actually on site. We have done over 800 powerflushes now and have uncovered pin-hole leaks on radiators in 4 or 5 cases.

Hope this helps.

P.S. Always fit a MAgnaclean or a Y-strainer. Condensing boilers are low water content boilers with small pipework with the heat exchanger. They are VERY fussy about the water going through them. Do not fit a Spirax Mganaboost - they are rubbish.






As above, all that shows is that it wasn't done properly.

BG give a lifetime guarantee on powerflushing so they just need to ring them up and get the to come back and sort it.

FYI, British Gas definition of "lifetime" is as long as you keep paying them for your service contract. They are usually much more expensive than even the very best specialists.
 
Boiler manufacturers require that the system is cleaned to BS5793 before the new boiler goes in.
That is not true.

Adding a chemical before replacement is one of the ways covered by the BS. If that route is taken then the following procedure must be used.

Another way of doing it, is fill the system, drain it, fill again, heat it up and drain it; job done.

Fushed in accordance with British Standards sounds really impressive, but guarantees no more than the absolute minimum.

Be wary of people/companies wavng impressive claims about; more often than not they mean nothing.
 

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