Price to have GRUNDFOS pump changed on manifold

[Casa]

Guys

I had an engineer come today to look at my underfloor heating and said that I need to get my pump changed. He says it’s top of the range but seems steep. He’s quoting £670+vat for pump and £200 to fit it.

He’s also charging £1884 to supply and for three Heatwise stats, actuators and control centre to zone up the current set up which he says is why I’m not getting a balanced system.

Am I being ripped off. What should I pay and how long should it take.

Cheers

 

[D_Hailsham]

I had an engineer come today to look at my underfloor heating and said that I need to get my pump changed. He says it’s top of the range but seems steep. He’s quoting £670+vat for pump and £200 to fit it.

I have found the same pump (Grundfos UPS2 25-40/60) online for £86 + delivery and VAT.

I would look for another engineer; or even post your problem here so someone can advise you what to do.

 

[Casa]

I had an engineer come today to look at my underfloor heating and said that I need to get my pump changed. He says it’s top of the range but seems steep. He’s quoting £670+vat for pump and £200 to fit it.

I have found the same pump (Grundfos UPS2 25-40/60) online for £86 + delivery and VAT.

I would look for another engineer; or even post your problem here so someone can advise you what to do.

Thanks so much for a prompt response

 

[Dan Robinson]

Don't normally agree with commenting on prices. But you are being totally ripped off. it would take 20 minutes tops to change the pump.

As for the stats and actuators - we need more details, but sounds like he's talking out of his arse.

UFH control can be as simple or as complicated as you want it to be...

 

[Dan Robinson]

Remember though - crazy prices notwithstanding... What you see as a purchase price is totally different to a "supply" price.

 

[ollski]

A magna1 25-60 is about 600 retail so depends exactly what he specc'd and why.

 

[Casa]

So I called another engineer (these are all GasSafe dudes) and he says pump is fine needs bleeding and zones set up with their own stats and I’m good. I have no idea who to believe.

Thanks Dan. Yes I agree. I wonder if they’ll install it if I purchased it online. Ollski is that magna a good replacement for my existing pump.

Thanks again both ..

 

[Dan Robinson]

A magna1 25-60 is about 600 retail so depends exactly what he specc'd and why.

Why would you use a Magna 1?

 

[ollski]

Why would you use a Magna 1?

Dunno Dan, I've never been there!

 

[Gasguru]

Looking at the 3 pump performance curves the UPS2 25-40/60 is identical in performance to a standard domestic UPS2 15-50/60

This looks like a typical case of redesignating a pump as "commercial" ie give it a nominal 25 port size (makes little difference) to suit the underfloor heating manufacturers..ie. so they can charge a rip off price.

They are both 1 1/2 " port threads, 130mm port to port etc.

 

[ianmcd]

The Pump that you already have is as good as any other, if it is faulty a straight replacement is as good as any other, cant really comment on your other quote as havent a clue what you are trying to achieve

 

[D_Hailsham]

I had an engineer come today to look at my underfloor heating and said that I need to get my pump changed. He says it’s top of the range but seems steep. He’s quoting £670+vat for pump and £200 to fit it.

1. Did the engineer say why the pump needed changing?
2. Was it a like for like replacement?
3. If not, which pump was he recommending?

 

[OvertonPlumber]

Gasguru is talking crap.
Underfloor heating needs a higher capacity pump due to the resistance of pumping through multiple loops potentially say 1000 metres of underfloor pipework.
The larger inlet pump of a 25/60 gives more ommph than a standard 15/60 the inlet port being 50 % smaller.
The OP underfloor system is relatively new installed 2017 and i would imagine just needs correctly venting and balancing. It is worth noting those later manifolds have a built in filter on the flow. Polypipe put the filter on as people kept putting underfloor on dirty systems which can foul up the flow meters.
I can only see 1 flow indicator in photo. 4 ltrs/min far too fast !!
Normally rule of thumb 1-1.5 ltrs/ min

 

[Dan Robinson]

Underfloor heating needs a higher capacity pump due to the resistance of pumping through multiple loops potentially say 1000 metres of underfloor pipework

1000m on one manifold is a little extreme.

 

[OvertonPlumber]

11 or 12 port manifold @ 97mtr loop =