Pub electrics.... Argh!!

[flyingsparks]

Just had to go check a pub boiler system was tripping the rcbo.

This is what I was faced with

How you suppose to do anything with that mess!?

 

[bernardgreen]

Looks like a real cock tail

Obviously the land lord gave the previous sparks strong drinks instead of tea while he was working.

 

[SaladFingers]

How you suppose to do anything with that mess!?

It may look a bit daunting for a DIY job, but it should be easy once you've worked out what each cable does.

I take it you've taken plenty of photos before doing anything else.

Trace each cable back to each motorised valve etc, label them, test them. Do the same with the others until you've found the fault.

It may be worth installing a bigger box for the heating controls as that's an awful lot of cables to try and squeeze into one box.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Something again

I am sure flyingsparks is not saying he doesn't know how to do it.

He's merely showing us the mess left.

You do seem adept at grabbing the wrong end of the stick.

 

[SaladFingers]

Something again

I am sure flyingsparks is not saying he doesn't know how to do it.

He's merely showing us the mess left.

You do seem adept at grabbing the wrong end of the stick.

He's posted on a DIY forum asking us how to sort this mess out.

I thought I'd help. I hardly think that if someone knew, they'd ask in a DIY forum, it's not as if this is a bored tradesmans coffee club.

Why do you feel the need to get offended on someone elses behalf and disrupt the thread?

 

[EFLImpudence]

I'm pretty sure the question was rhetorical.

As I said, You do seem adept at grabbing the wrong end of the stick.

 

[Lectrician]

How you suppose to do anything with that mess!?

As above, he included an exclamation mark and some rolling eyes (the ones you yourself, Mr Salad, seem to like so much). I took it to be a rhetorical question from that.

Reminds me of this pub I had the misfortune to have to PIR a while ago. (No help required Mr S.)

 

[flyingsparks]

Indeed it was meant at a rhetorical question!

Trouble was there was hardly any slack on most cables to have been able to pull them out and see where they were going/connected to what. But, luckily, the joint box to the right of the messy adaptable box had the connections to one of the valves. So I thought I'd start there - and luckily enough that was the one down to 0.02M! The pub landlord is apparently an 'electrician' but he was away, hence why I was doing it. The actual mess, we have left, he doesn't want it tidied up...

 

[gaspro1981]

That's about the standard for a sparky's effort at wiring up central htg controls
Only messin fella's

 

[flyingsparks]

That's about the standard for a sparky's effort at wiring up central htg controls
Only messin fella's

I think you mean 'plumbers' effort...??!!

 

[gaspro1981]

That's about the standard for a sparky's effort at wiring up central htg controls
Only messin fella's

I think you mean 'plumbers' effort...??!!

Yeah you could be right there bud

 

[matt1e]

It could have been worse
It could have been a social club, you get to see a lot worse in them as there is always a committee man/member/friend of a friend that are "good with electrics" and don't mind getting paid in drink
I remember one job I went to that had a problem with a disabled toilet alarm, no fcu and the feed was took straight from the incoming side of a CU main switch. this was done to "stop anyone turning it off accidentally"
If that wasn't bad enough they had used the 4core alarm cable with the cores doubled up to connect it

Matt

 

[securespark]

How you suppose to do anything with that mess!?

Whaddya mean, mess?

That's one of my best to date, you cheeky bleeder!

 

[Spark123]

At least you had MCBs, you usually find allsorts stuffed in rewirable fuse holders in pubs. I once even found one with fuse wire in

 

[streetlighter]

I usually find a bit of 1mm copper in rewirable fuse carriers ! Dont know why the regulations dont ban the use of BS3036 fuses in installations used by unskilled and unsupervised persons.