Removing an outside toilet pan

[denso13]

Put something down the pipe to catch any debris then cut it flush with the floor.

 

[danlightbulb]

Ok great! I'm flush.

It wasn't too bad in the end. Even the tiled floor is intact. It was more confidence than anything else, and not wanting to break anything.

Pipe goes vertically down at least 4 feet before turning.

I bought one of these drain bungs but how the hell you supposed to screw it down whilst it's in the hole is beyond me. Alternatives?

 

[danlightbulb]

Will one of these fit? Says 110mm, the internal diameter of my pipe is 100mm.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/mcalpine-push-fit-drain-blanking-cap-black-110mm/4331v?ref=SFAppShare

 

[danlightbulb]

expands and it contracts simply by you holding the threaded rod and turning the wing nut.

Yes, but it's very stiff and if you are holding the threaded part and have your hands in the hole trying to stop it falling, and trying to tighten the wing nut at the same time - it simply doesn't work.

 

[denso13]

bought one of these drain bungs but how the hell you supposed to screw it down whilst it's in the hole is beyond me. Alternatives?

Shouldn't be as tight as that, maybe some lubricant on the threads, it just needs to go below the finished floor surface, nothing more.

 

[danlightbulb]

Shouldn't be as tight as that, maybe some lubricant on the threads, it just needs to go below the finished floor surface, nothing more.

What about the push fit one?

 

[denso13]

That's for modern 110mm plastic drainage, so your older pipework will need to be similar.

How are you finishing the floor off?

 

[danlightbulb]

It fits.

Pipe was 100mm internal, this fits snugly. Don't think I broke anything pushing it in.

How are you finishing the floor off?

That's it now. Wash down with pressure washer and it's done. Outdoor storage space.

 

[Hugh Jaleak]

It fits.

Pipe was 100mm internal, this fits snugly. Don't think I broke anything pushing it in.



That's it now. Wash down with pressure washer and it's done. Outdoor storage space.

I would suggest putting some concrete, or a decent paving slab on a mortar bed, over the Cap, to discourage any Rodents from thinking it might be a good way out. They'll make short work of chewing through the plastic should they choose to.

 

[Nige F]

OP,
Dont use a multi-tool. Do you have an angle grinder?
The actual S-trap connector is converting a P-trap pan into an S-trap pan - its presumably somehow worked, & flushes the pan?
Anyhow, leave the S-trap connector alone - & smash the pan from the rim down.
As you work down remove any large shards from inside the pan - given the height of the trap S-bend bend then nothing should enter the soil pipe.
The S-trap is probably puttied into the P-trap outlet - but first do the above & then post a pic with the pan and its pedestal removed, & I'll suggest what to do next.

there is no P trap converter - it's an original S trap. The converters go with Horizontal Outlet pans. what to do next ? google old English WC pans