rewiring -do it before i move in?
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Absolutely.
It also means that it will be a bit easier for whoever is doing it because they can raise the floorboards and leave them raised until finished whereas if you were living there they'd have to work around you and replace boards at the end of each day.
It also means that it will be a bit easier for whoever is doing it because they can raise the floorboards and leave them raised until finished whereas if you were living there they'd have to work around you and replace boards at the end of each day.
Yeah... we would charge for at least an additional day if you've moved in... maybe two.
dingbat said:
And the rest, carpets and flooring down, furniture and bookcases etc..
On a 3/4 Edwardian house (main stock for my work) an empty building will take 4 man weeks, an occupied one takes 6 weeks.
Further reason for extra time includes H&S factor, leaving with power to occupied rooms and full tidy for last hour of day.
If you are going to allow a smash and bash, consider all other works that will break the fabric such as plumbing, pipe work, AV and TV, data and voice.
doing a rewire this week in a mid terrace cottage.
A lot less hassle as it is unoccupied, customer happier as all work will be done before he moves in.
The job costs the customer less and makes things all round easier.
A lot less hassle as it is unoccupied, customer happier as all work will be done before he moves in.
The job costs the customer less and makes things all round easier.
Chri5 said:
Jeez, you're slow!
Two men, four days on an empty one.
Paul,
If you have somewhere to stay, you should think of getting the plastering/decorating and any plumbing done. Depending on the siz e of the house you may be looking at an extra week or two. I know his has already been suggested.
You will need to speed up Chri5, cos 4 weeks is a bitt OTT for a rewire.
No offence intended here mate, just a bit of friendly advice.
If you have somewhere to stay, you should think of getting the plastering/decorating and any plumbing done. Depending on the siz e of the house you may be looking at an extra week or two. I know his has already been suggested.
You will need to speed up Chri5, cos 4 weeks is a bitt OTT for a rewire.
No offence intended here mate, just a bit of friendly advice.
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dingbat said:
With one socket & light per room sited where you want them not the customer, maybe!!
Depends on situation as well. I gave a colleague a lift on a job in Yorks a while back - a very old detached stone cottage with myriad extensions including a 60's flat roof on the lounge. We had to go outside with the wall light cables in conduit, all the way round this extension. Some 15m of tube, with drops for wall and outside lights along the way.
Then there's a rewire I did a few years back: 45 sockets, and that was just upstairs....The house had a shower, cooker, immersion, security lighting circuit, garage circuit, sauna room, gym, pool, 6 rings and 3 radials (kitchen). It was a 24 way 3 phase board.
So, you had to think about different phases being adjacent, too....
securespark said:
Not at all.
Last week we did a bog-standard three-storey 4 bed Edwardian in 4 days... 4 twins per bedroom, one on each landing & hall, 4 lots of two-way switching, 6 socks plus wall lights in lounge, 4 in dining rm, bonding, supp bonding, kitchen to full plan for refit to a high spec new kitchen.
I prefer doing it in first and second fix stages, but we didn't have the option here - I only hope the plasterer doesn't do what they usually do in these cases.
On 1st/2nd fix we generally take 3 days for first and one long day for second fix.
On the good old two-bed back-to-backs it's usually a day and a half for first and a short day for second.
All it takes is hard work, teamwork and the fact that we work for ourselves!
Paulboy said:think what we are going to do is move in, then in june get the work done, have all our stuff down stairs or in the loft and move out while its done, so have everything stacked in middle of living room etc
Remove all of your personal possessions and clothes - it's a dusty job and there's nothing worse than shifting personal clutter around. Don't bother trying to work out where to put furniture - I guarantee wherever you put it it will need moving - and don't, whatever you do, put anything in the loft.
Far, far better that you try and get it done before you move even a stick of furniture in - yo may well save the cost of accommodation on a better price for the job.
dingbat said:
Average 4 bed Edwardian round here has a architect designer for the spec's. Due to previous history I always get fairly complex sites.
Tends to be:-
Kitchen ring 8 doubles, 4 FS
Cooker
Grd floor ring 12 doubles + Hall
1st floor ring 10 doubles + Hall
Immersion heater
Boiler + stat + controls
2 light radials, bathroom and kitchen 8 GU10's, double switching in hall, wall up lighters to master recpt
Outside lights
Shed service
Voice point to every room in house
Loft box / TV distribution to every room in house
Sat and digi aerial feeds
Cat 5 to rooms requiring LAN / Broadband and central patch panel for voice and data
Cable for TV speakers 5:1 to one or two rooms
Sockets and service position for Plasmas
Alarm cabling, if and as required
Man and boy takes 14 days + for full 1st fix, route builds and working round 3rd party trades.
4 days for 2nd fix
2 days for test, full cad drawings, schematics etc
1-3 days of survey, design consult, material orders and general flapping about due to architect.
I think I work pretty hard, is my work window really that OTT?
I would add that most are 50's wiring and surface fittings abound, setting back boxes and route provision behind 10" skirting is a PITA
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