Roof tiles to short water runs back

[ady555]

Hi everyone

Let me start with our semi detach house is fairly old around 1920s. Having issue with tiles where there is no overhang pass brick wall.

Beginning of this year we had some work done to facia /gutters/bay window roof section ect., also fitted eaves trays with combs.

Here where the problem starts at the front of the house having issue with water running on to eaves trays but instead of running in to gutter it rolls back allowing water run on to brick wall inside. I already worked out the eaves trays are not fitted correctly and angle looks to be wrong.

So without spending for new roof to actually get some overhang what can I fit under tiles in terms of extending them sort of speak?

I'm thinking of getting lead roll, push last row of tiles up, shape that lead in to tiles shape, slide it under tiles, attach it to that last batten then pull tiles down. I only need to extend by 20-40mm and is about 1.8m long section of roof. I could just use roll of felt possibly but belive lead will offer more rigid solution for now.

 

[noseall]

Hi everyone

Let me start with our semi detach house is fairly old around 1920s. Having issue with tiles where there is no overhang pass brick wall.

Beginning of this year we had some work done to facia /gutters/bay window roof section ect., also fitted eaves trays with combs.

Here where the problem starts at the front of the house having issue with water running on to eaves trays but instead of running in to gutter it rolls back allowing water run on to brick wall inside. I already worked out the eaves trays are not fitted correctly and angle looks to be wrong.

So without spending for new roof to actually get some overhang what can I fit under tiles in terms of extending them sort of speak?

I'm thinking of getting lead roll, push last row of tiles up, shape that lead in to tiles shape, slide it under tiles, attach it to that last batten then pull tiles down. I only need to extend by 20-40mm and is about 1.8m long section of roof. I could just use roll of felt possibly but belive lead will offer more rigid solution for now.

How will the lead stay in place?

 

[ady555]

How will the lead stay in place?

Hopping to attach it with nails to existing last batten or even add another one. Might have to remove that row of tiles out if can't get access to batten.

All depends how the angle will look ect., in my vision only solution that will work on our roof is extending them tiles somehow.

 

[ree]

OP,
You have already worked out that the problem is connected to the eaves trays but seeing a couple of pics of the bay(?) & the eaves area in question looking down into the gutter would help.
Do you have profiled tiles on the roof?
Presumably you know that perimeter tiles might be nailed, & how to correctly install the trays?

 

[ady555]

OP,
You have already worked out that the problem is connected to the eaves trays but seeing a couple of pics of the bay(?) & the eaves area in question looking down into the gutter would help.
Do you have profiled tiles on the roof?
Presumably you know that perimeter tiles might be nailed, & how to correctly install the trays?

Tiles are Double Roman if I'm not mistaken.
I don't have picture to share been honest from that area effected until I get cherry picker hired again, last time I went up ladders that high I wasn't very comfortable. Combs was lifting the tiles up so had to trim them, been told they will bend in time well them suckers didn't want to bend much by them self.

I know tiles are not nailed, already pushed them up to take a look.

You could be correct where the eaves trays are not installed correctly. I know for a fact they not nailed/screwed down to anything, one side is held or should I say cemented to hip and the other has a layer of resing from GRP bay roof.
Currently at work but once at home later I will try to draw what the profile looks like. To me is completely wrong and is tiled back,Them trays have specific angle and the part that goes under tiles sits to flat. Tiles just ends where bird comb is if you can imagine.

 

[ady555]

Found some old pics of bay but is not finished pic as there was a tile missing, then gutters was replaced. In all honesty tired paying for trade even from recommendation and not having work done correctly.

 

[ree]

OP,
Thanks for the pic & info.
From what you show then maybe its best to get whoever worked on the job earlier this year to return, otherwise you will need a new contractor.
I can see a few difficulties but cant recommend how to fix things because I dont know whats been covered up or how the eaves were originally constructed.
I sympathise with your difficulties with contractors - paying for job supervision from say, a RICS Surveyor, & pics showing before, during & after the work might help?

 

[ady555]

OP,
Thanks for the pic & info.
From what you show then maybe its best to get whoever worked on the job earlier this year to return, otherwise you will need a new contractor.
I can see a few difficulties but cant recommend how to fix things because I dont know whats been covered up or how the eaves were originally constructed.
I sympathise with your difficulties with contractors - paying for job supervision from say, a RICS Surveyor, & pics showing before, during & after the work might help?

If it was that simple getting them back in I would, I kicked off about them eaves trays been covered with GRP on that side originally but went along with it at the end. They already been out once and said is fixed, well is not also there is another part they didn't do right and will never see them again most likely. I might be able to get up ladders Monday or something to post more pics of the effect area. From reading around UK is pot luck with roofers and trust me I done my due diligence asking around ect., Over last few months I learned a lot with all aspects of DIY, I don't mind tackling the job now my self and should have done it from get go but had very limited knowledge about roofing back then.

Which ever way you look at this tiles are to short, old design of house and only correct way to deal with this would be new roof so they start lower but is lot of money for new roof for the sake of 20-40mm. I did go up there again but I'm suspecting where 2 eaves that joins together they come apart or something creating gap for water to run inside. I don't have this issue from whole left side or the back of the house just a section at front.

I know at one stage we will need new roof due to no other option but render the house which will add another layer pulling that gutter further away, will be big job but can only start this once everything inside gets done. So stopping that water leaking back at the front is priority for the next 2 years

 

[ree]

OP,
You can use a selfie stick from a bedroom window to examine the eaves?
Why not read my previous working at height posts?
I doubt that you can "tackle the job" given you apparently dont know whats presently hidden?

 

[ady555]

OP,
You can use a selfie stick from a bedroom window to examine the eaves?
Why not read my previous working at height posts?
I doubt that you can "tackle the job" given you apparently dont know whats presently hidden?

Well you can have your doubts and I will leave it at that.

 

[ady555]

OP,
I do have my doubts about someone who says he "goes along with it".
ie. if you knew whats out of sight then it might suggest that you did some of the work -yourself - the scaffold in the pic lacks a corner standard not something a professional would leave out? Whose idea was the combs?
After all your complaints, the best pic you can be bothered to produce is an old

Of course, any more falls accusations? and honestly not interested about your doubts ect.,