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Bit of an embarrassing one. We were away during the recent cold snap and, as the cat was going to be left indoors alone, I set our wireless thermostat to 14 degrees for night time and 17 degrees for the other periods. I hadn't really clocked the fact that there was a freeze on the way so on our return our neighbour who had been feeding little Tiddles asked if I could show him how to work the thermostat, as the house was bitterly cold when he came in each morning. I had placed the device in the living room near the cat's basket and so I was a bit surprised. Is there any official data about how to manage this kind of scenario? My calculations were clearly wrong as I've since read that I need to set the daytime temperature much higher in freezing weather so that the house warms properly. My neighbour says that he just leaves his the same whether or not the house is occupied - so that would be 21 and 16 for me. Mind you, it's so hot in his house - (no jokes about loft cultivations please!).
I'm interested to know what the professionals on the forum do when they go away.
 
Bit of an embarrassing one. We were away during the recent cold snap and, as the cat was going to be left indoors alone, I set our wireless thermostat to 14 degrees for night time and 17 degrees for the other periods. I hadn't really clocked the fact that there was a freeze on the way so on our return our neighbour who had been feeding little Tiddles asked if I could show him how to work the thermostat, as the house was bitterly cold when he came in each morning. I had placed the device in the living room near the cat's basket and so I was a bit surprised.

By default, ours is set to 14C at night, 18C from 10am to 10pm, with the thermostat placed in the cooler part of the house, the hall. All radiators have TRV's, except the hall radiator. Perhaps your thermostat, was sensing heat from the cat? The outdoor temperature, can affect you indoors, but not to the extent you should 'feel freezing', if the thermostat, and heating, is working properly, and set high enough.
 
18c is freezing for us, mine is set to 20c from 7.30am till10am, then 21.5c to 7pm and 22.5 from 7pm till 9pm, overnight is 19c.

House is mid terrace with no wall insulation.

Everyone's heat tolerance is different and i know people who boil when temp hits 17c in the sun, whilst for me 24c in sun is comfortable.

When we were abroad 2 years ago in teh winter, London had a few cold nights -6, heating was off, noticed house temp dropped to 13.2c, fired up heating to 18c from halfway around the world to ensure no frozen pipes
 
18c is freezing for us, mine is set to 20c from 7.30am till10am, then 21.5c to 7pm and 22.5 from 7pm till 9pm, overnight is 19c.

It is dependent on where the temperature is actually measured. The hall is just representative of the house temperature, but at a lower temperature than the actual rooms, off the hall. In the rooms, TRV's limit the maximum temperatures.

Neither of us, tend to feel the cold, first thing on a morning, straight out of bed, so it remains at 14C, until 10am. We have a gas fire, in the living room, if extra warmth is needed, but most days, we don't tend to use it until the evening, the 18C in the hall, is enough. The heat from the fire, even at it's lowest setting, tends to be too much, and when on, it closes the living room TRV.

The house, always lags the outdoor temperature by a couple of days. In really cold weather, we tend to nudge the stat up from 18C, to 20C.
 
I've since read that I need to set the daytime temperature much higher in freezing weather so that the house warms properly.

Huh? Where did you read that?

You set the thermostat to the temperature you want inside. It turns the heating on as necessary to achieve that temperature. You don't need to turn the thermostat up when it is colder outside. That's what thermostats do.

My neighbour says that he just leaves his the same whether or not the house is occupied

Presumably he's made of money and doesn't believe in climate change.

I'm interested to know what the professionals on the forum do when they go away.

Turn everything off - unless it's the middle of winter, when I might set it to 7 degrees for 7 to 10 AM, to avoid pipes freezing.
 
I'm interested to know what the professionals on the forum do when they go away.

My fancy control system, includes a holiday mode - I just tell it when we will go away, and when we will be back. It then arranges to have the house nice and warm, and the water in the cylinder, hot ready for our return. Between the two dates, if the house might freeze, it turns the heating on to prevent it.
 
I see the problem, circulation.jpg we are looking at how the air circulates, not just a spot temperature. So heat leaves the top of the radiator, goes along the ceiling down the opposing wall, and along the floor back to the radiator, so the sensor needs to be on that route, putting a thermostat 90° from that path, and it will not reflect the heat of the room.

I tried with a wireless thermostat, placing it in different areas, to see how it worked, room got very cold, as darn cat sleeping on the thermostat.

However, I have one boiler, and 14 heated areas, using the lock shield valves we can at say 22°C in the target area, arrange other areas to heat to a percentage of that temperature, but change it to 17°C in the target area, and all those percentages are out, the TRV (thermostatic radiator valve) can help, we can set 61dmtMm13BL.jpg the maximum room temperature, and measuring near bottom, and to one side of radiator ideally placed to measure the return air, but it will not fire the boiler, you can however get versions
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which will fire the boiler through a hub, so what we are looking at, is how far to go. While heating is running, the movement of air means the room in general gets warm, but before the heating starts, so little air movement, we can get cold spots, so against the wall under a window will be colder, if this is where we are measuring the room temperature, then the boiler will start a little prematurely, as to if this is good or bad not sure, but you can get systems where the sensor is not in the TRV, and even TRV heads which also measure water temperature and compensate for heat direct from radiator.

So nothing to stop one having no wall thermostats and use the TRV heads to control the heating in every room, but we tend to look at cost, and also question if a boiler will work well if asked to output just 2 kW, I am an electrician so can't really tell you about boilers, but in my main house, every room but bathroom, has programmable electronic TRV heads, of them only one can call for heat, I also have two wall thermostats, one in living room and one in hall which can call for heat, so three locations in the house can cause the boiler to fire up.

Looking at near enough engineering, at £54 each I could fit another 9 Wiser TRV heads, but the cheaper eQ-3 which cost me £15 each in 2019 seem to be doing a good enough job.

I have 5 of the TRV heads, and two of the wall thermostats, which I can view and alter the temperature and schedules worldwide as long as I have internet.

But oil bill for the year around £600, only used for half a year really, so around £22 a week on heating, lowering the temperature will reduce the bill, so may save £12 a week on fuel, and £25 will not really pay for a better control system.

I had the same argument with geo-fencing (that's auto turning off heating when it detects your phones are not local) seemed great in theory, in practice, never reheating the house in time. So it has been disabled.

I have a flat under the main house, it also has a cat flap, and heating turned down to around 10°C just to stop anything freezing, we find our cats often prefer the cool flat to the warm house, I often walk in to see our male flat out sleeping in the middle of the floor.

And the black & white female will leave the house by chip reading cat flap, but wants letting back in at the window, even with the catch sellotaped down, the other two will go in and out, but Sible only out. But will go in and out of flat. The problem is we have a feral cat visit with catch sellotaped down, and eat our cats' food, but this time of year we turn a blind eye.
 
I'm interested to know what the professionals on the forum do when they go away.
I turn the heating off to be honest. When we are home, normally 17-18 degrees during the day and around 19 in the evening. Off during the night.
 
You do know the temperature at which water freezes, right?
Yes, but we have some pipes on the back wall inside the house, this wall is subject to freezing temps so temp there will be much much lower. Plus w ehave a simple combi, no water tank rubbish.
 

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