scantronic 9448+ issues with alarm

[Pharun]

Hi, I don't know if you can help me, I have looked through the threads and I cannot see my specific issue, When I set my alarm it emits an internal alarm noise but nothing from the external bell,I tested the external bell, and it works, the number 4 zone is lit up red when I input the code to set the alarm, the lights blink on the two ceiling sensors and the 4 sensors on the doors and windows visually appear OK, I last changed the battery in 2016, for some reason it blew a fuse ,but I replaced that, and it all appeared fine, I was wondering if there was a way to disable the number four zone so I can still use the alarm, I have a new Battery being delivered tomorrow just in case It's that, thanks for looking

 

[sparkymarka]

Is there any thing wired to zone 4 ( look inside alarm panel ) if not and there is no shorting link fitted , it will need one or program it as not used ….. if there is something wired to zone 4 then it’s faulty / open circuit

 

[Pharun]

Sorry I am totally blind where wiring is concerned , I hope these pictures help, 4 is used,it looks like a circuit fault then?, is there a workaround. thanks for your help

 

[sparkymarka]

open all the doors see what lights up …..close one at a time , now see what lights up ….

 

[Pharun]

Hi I did as you asked, my kitchen window zone 1 and kitchen door are zone 3, my lounge window is zone 1 and my kitchen and longe ceiling sensors are zone 3, the front door (the entry point) didn't trigger any additional buttons to light up , only the number 4 button remained lit, the number 2 button did not light up, it doesn't appear to be wired
thanks
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would it be possible to remove the wires from zone 4 and insulate them with shrink tube ,or move them to another zone so I can use the the system?

 

[sparkymarka]

Remove the wires from zone 4 …put a wire shorting link in the zone ….now fully test the alarm …

 

[Pharun]

I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean by a wire shorting link?, do you mean place a piece of wire between the two terminals on zone 4? as in bridging the terminals? and do I need to pull the mains fuse first
thanks

 

[sparkymarka]

Yes …..and no you don’t need to pull the mains fuse …

 

[Pharun]

thanks I will try that in the morning , I have had a drink and I am nervous around wiring at the best of times. thank you

 

[Pharun]

Good morning, I did as you asked, and the zone 4 light is now out, I set the alarm and walked into the lounge and the outside and inside bell sounded, however when I set the alarm and went outside, as soon as I entered the house the box made an intermittent bleeping sound, and no alarm went off until I walked in front of the sensor in the kitchen ,and that only activated the inside alarm, thanks
EDIT
I retested again and it did the same again when I entered the house , but this time I waited until the intermittent sound stopped and the internal alarm came on, and after a minute the outside alarm kicked in, thank you so much
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what do you suggest I do next, or can this be left as it is
thanks

 

[sparkymarka]

Every device …..according to your first post 6 , 4 doors and two detectors …test one at a time

 

[Pharun]

Hi, they all appear to work, I opened the windows and doors one at a time and the internal alarm went off, the entry door didn't kick in when I tested while it was open but when I closed it and set the alarm again and then entered the house it did kick in,
thanks
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What do you think zone 4 was for?
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when I set the alarm with a door or window left open only the internal alarm sounds, is this normal for this alarm system?
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I just did a walk test (button 5 -enter- my security code) and tested all the windows ,doors etc and they triggered the test sound
thanks

 

[Pharun]

Thank you so much Sparkymaka for your help, my home at the moment may be being targeted as I get my front door kicked at night and there is no one there when I go out, I suspect they are kicking it to see if anyone is at home, there has been a spate of break-ins in my area and one old lady was tied up, so thanks to you, I can sleep a little safer now that the alarm is working,
once again
Thank you
regards
Pete

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[sparkymarka]

Can’t comment on zone 4 ? Without any labels on the cable or paper work it’s anybodys guess ? It’s not the first time I’ve been to a job and a device has been left above a unit in a kitchen or above a ceiling after building work..

 

[sparkymarka]

Ps yes the bell won’t ring on a bad set ( door left open on a setting ) as the alarm has not set ….also running out of time on entry does also give a pre alarm ( no bells ) of another 30 secs on that panel