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I wasn't talking about the word "boiler" (which, although most of them don't 'boil' the contents, has become a totally accepted word for such things) but, rather, the concept of having a water-heating device controlled by WiFi
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measured my micro a few weeks ago plugged in [clock] 2w door open [light]22w 900w running around 1500w
anything modern on standby must consume less than 1w
1w for an average 10 hrs a day = £1 a year at around 27p a unit so my micro would cost around 2.4 units a year and as my electricity is 21.56 thats around £2 a year
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I wonder how much physical (human) energy is consumed by walking around unplugging everything.
If I were to turn off my inbuilt microwave combi oven, I would need to reset the clock each time I want to use it, which would require me to keep a clock in the kitchen.
If I turn off my telly, I would need to re-enter the PIN number before it would boot again (B&O).
Fortunately, I don't have a smart meter, so I don't need to worry about how much energy that is using.
If I were to turn off my inbuilt microwave combi oven, I would need to reset the clock each time I want to use it, which would require me to keep a clock in the kitchen.
If I turn off my telly, I would need to re-enter the PIN number before it would boot again (B&O).
Fortunately, I don't have a smart meter, so I don't need to worry about how much energy that is using.
Quite so - and, even more so, all these stories we hear of people contemplating very appreciable capital outlay in attempts to save tiny amounts of electricity usage.
Again, quite so - and as I pointed out in another recent thread, repeatedly removing and then restoring power to electronic things can, in some cases, appreciably shorten their life expectancy - resulting in far more cost that the 'de-powering' would probably save in a lifetime!
If you did have a 'smart' meter, 'the planet' (or maybe even the supplier) might need to worry, but I don't think you would have to, since I think you'll find that the energy used by the meter itself comes from the unmetered side of the meter!
Kind Regards, John
1wx10hrsx365=3.650I don't quite get that arithmetic
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3650wx27p=98p
or 24hrs is2.4x the 10 hrs equation
but as my units are a bit less its a bit cheaper
i chose 27p as its easy scalable without complicated sums
Fair enough, although I'm not quite sure how the 10hrs got into this. As I quoted, what I was confused by was ..1wx10hrsx365=3.650 ... 3650wx27p=98p .... or 24hrs is2.4x the 10 hrs equation ... but as my units are a bit less its a bit cheaper ... i chose 27p as its easy scalable without complicated sums
If, as I presumed you meant (wrongly?) it uses 2.4 units per year and a unit of electricity costs you 21.56p, then that would come to around 51.74p per year, rather than £2.
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It should be relatively easy to judge how full a kettle is by the weight.
Just under a pint weighs just over a pound.
Or, if you're 45 or younger, half a litre weighs half a kilo.
Just under a pint weighs just over a pound.
Or, if you're 45 or younger, half a litre weighs half a kilo.
and costs almost a pound to boil it. (~~sorry~~)
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Indeed.It should be relatively easy to judge how full a kettle is by the weight. Just under a pint weighs just over a pound. Or, if you're 45 or younger, half a litre weighs half a kilo.
Raising the temp of 'half a litre' of water by 85 °C (15 °C to 100 °C) uses about 0.05 kWh of energy, which equates to about 1.35p at 27p/kWh. In itself, that's obviously trivial, but for those who like such multiplication sums, doing that 5 times a day for 365 days would add up to about £24.63 per year.
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no i meant 24hrs is 2.4 times the 10 hour equasion
ok i will do the full equasion to save confusion
24x1=24x365=8760w 8760wx21.56p-£1.89p
the idea is to make it as simple as possible to work out without having to think
10 hrs a day works as an average iff you use for longer add abit on or less take a bit off not ment to be accurate but simple and give or take 5% is near enough
Yes, I now understand that (and hence understand your calculation), but it wasn't how I originally read it, and nor do I really understand why the "10 hours" ever got into it
Fair enough - but, unfortunately, as above, it merely confused me (rather than making it 'simple' for me'
Whatever, the important point is that we are talking about incredibly trivial sums of money, by almost anyone's standards.
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yes sorry for the confusion
indeed a very small amount thats sort off the point of turning something on and off every day to save a pound or two a year is not worth the effort
indeed iff someone offered you a pound to get on your hands and knees and plug and unplug a tv 365 times you would laugh at the stupidity
indeed a very small amount thats sort off the point of turning something on and off every day to save a pound or two a year is not worth the effort
indeed iff someone offered you a pound to get on your hands and knees and plug and unplug a tv 365 times you would laugh at the stupidity
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