slavery

[donrkebab]

Why is it, when slavery is being discussed and the white slave traders are condemned. There is never any mention that they bought the slaves from black african tribes.

 

[noseall]

There is never any mention that they bought the slaves from black african tribes.

There is. You just choose not to see it. It's an RWR trait.

 

[donrkebab]

There is. You just choose not to see it. It's an RWR trait.

You do a lot of guessing, show me one place where it is mentioned in a communication about slavery. Quick, I'm holding my breath.

 

[sodthisforfun]

Not all slaves were sold by tribes, some were just taken.

 

[Bodd]

I think we all need to recognise our roll in slavery.
I don't remember learning the history at school.

Wish I did learn more. We can no longer feel guilty for it and attention should be aimed at modern day slavery.

 

[Mfatic]

I think we all need to recognise our roll in slavery.
I don't remember learning the history at school.

Wish I did learnd more. We can no longer feel guilty for it and attention should be aimed at modern day slavery.

Was there a roll in slavery? What, like a sausage roll?
"Wish I did learnd more". I bet you do!

Sorry, not taking the urine, I just found it so funny.
Thanks for making me giggle.

 

[Mfatic]

I was watching a politics show t'other lunchtime.
Trevor Philips ( former chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission) was on and he reckoned the end of slavery was caused by the invention of the steam engine.
That seems nonsense to me.
He reckoned it reduced the need for labour. But in my mind slaves were not used for mass labour in that sense.

 

[Bodd]

t'other

 

[Mfatic]

North American states had abolished slavery by 1805.
The first steam engine was introduced about 1830.

I think Trevor Philips is mistaken.

 

[noseall]

Not all slaves were sold by tribes, some were just taken.

Correct. Not all slaves came from tribes either. Nor were they exclusively from Africa.

 

[EFLImpudence]

A lot of slave 'owners' were 'compensated' for having to give them up.

Was Philips just trying to play down the efforts of those trying to abolish it?

 

[noseall]

You do a lot of guessing, show me one place where it is mentioned in a communication about slavery. Quick, I'm holding my breath.

Read it on Wiki. No big secret.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Correct. Not all slaves came from tribes either. Nor were they exclusively from Africa.

No, lots were British

 

[EFLImpudence]

You do a lot of guessing, show me one place where it is mentioned in a communication about slavery. Quick, I'm holding my breath.

That does raise the question - How do you know it, then?

 

[Mfatic]

A lot of slave 'owners' were 'compensated' for having to give them up.

Was Philips just trying to play down the efforts of those trying to abolish it?

He was in a discussion with someone else, and he disagreed with the causes of the abolition of slavery, by claiming that the invention of the steam engine caused the abolition of slavery.
That didn't add up to my mind. Due to the discrepancy of the type of work undertaken by slaves, and potentially undertaken by steam engines.
So I looked up the abolition of slavery and compared it to the invention of the steam engine.
The abolition of slavery predates the invention of the steam engine.
In fact the beginning of the abolition of slavery predates the steam engine by quite a few years.
Therefore, either Trevor Philips had some peculiar motive of his own, or he is/was seriously mistaken. And he's written a book about it!


Edit: Friday edition of Politics Live BBC2

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0004wcj/politics-live-10052019

30 minutes into the programme, discussing Paul Mason's book.