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[joe-90]

I do know everything aboiut everything. Why do you think that no-one (with any sense) will take me on in an argument? It's because they ALWAYS lose.

No-one has EVER beaten the great Joe-90 in an argument - and they never will.

Feel free to try anytime you like.



joe

 

[Brightness]

I have no wish to argue with you as you are an extremely tiresome little creep. Now do yourself a favour and go to bed. It must be way past your bedtime.

 

[joe-90]

I have no wish to argue with you as you are an extremely tiresome little creep. Now do yourself a favour and go to bed. It must be way past your bedtime.

In other words you know you'll get your hairy butt kicked (as usual).



joe

 

[joe-90]

Why is it you never dispute that you've got a hairy butt?



joe

Moderator

Why must you always try to stir up an argument, just enjoy the banter. It isn't a joe-90 contest.

 

[supersparky]

Supersparky, my hubby reacts in the same way as you do when he has sugar - he goes to sleep! He's not on insulin he's on tablets. It was my friend that I used to work with who goes off on one when she has sugar LOL

I agree about the sticky urine though, it's gross and I get sick of cleaning toilets

yeh tablets and injections are basicly the same, one tends to be genetic and one tends to be weight although not always ive met people built like rakes with it! basic difference is, injections- we dont make any insulin tablets - dont make enough
(hence size/ comes into play)

sticky urine, yeh, tis not nice that one lemons good though and then you dont get the whiff

 

[jbonding]

I do know everything aboiut everything. Why do you think that no-one (with any sense) will take me on in an argument? It's because they ALWAYS lose.

No-one has EVER beaten the great Joe-90 in an argument - and they never will.

Feel free to try anytime you like.



joe

i dont know why

 

[Brightness]

yeh tablets and injections are basicly the same, one tends to be genetic and one tends to be weight although not always ive met people built like rakes with it! basic difference is, injections- we dont make any insulin tablets - dont make enough
(hence size/ comes into play)

sticky urine, yeh, tis not nice that one lemons good though and then you dont get the whiff

Hubby has a genetic form that is controlled by tablets - it is actually quite rare. He has Familial diabetes He is a big bloke but some of his family even though tall, are quite normal weight and have it as well.

He is supposed to go for regular check-ups but keeps missing his apointments grrrrr.

I've now told him to make his own appointments and then he can only blame himself for missing them and if he misses too many and dies then i will just cash in on his insurance LMAO - He still didn't take any notice

 

[Softus]

I went to school ya know.

The available evidence suggests that you didn't. (He didn't).

The thing is that we had NO problem kids in our school - not one.

But how many problem adults did that alleged school create?

Now you can talk as much piffle as you like, but talk to your Dad and see what he says about the subject. See if he had kids with 'Attention Defecit Disorder' in his class. I'll warrant that he didn't.

Well that's a warranty that's about as impressive as a fresh beard on a fourteen-year-old eunuch.

It's not a subject open to argument

Oh yes it is!

I do know everything aboiut everything.

Yeah, right!
Well then, how about you have a go against b-a-s on electrics? Or me on domestic heating? Or either of us on English Law? Those, or any of the other subjects that you studiously avoid?

Bring it on. (He won't).

No-one has EVER beaten the great Joe-90 in an argument - and they never will.

Feel free to try anytime you like.

You have mis-spelt your own username. (He did).

Argument over. (It is).

joe-90 lost. (He did).

 

[joe-90]

Instead of boring the pants of everyone, Softus, let's hear what YOU think about the matter. Anyone can make silly comments - you've proved that often enough. Join the debate, mate, don't just throw insults from behind Mummy's skirt. Speak out man. Let's hear what YOU think. (he won't say - he never does).


joe

 

[Softus]

I do know everything aboiut everything. Why do you think that no-one (with any sense) will take me on in an argument? It's because they ALWAYS lose.

No-one has EVER beaten the great Joe-90 in an argument - and they never will.

Feel free to try anytime you like.

Bring it on.

Anyone can make silly comments

 

[joe-90]

See what I mean?

If you've got nothing to say - well drop out of the thread.




joe

 

[Softus]

See what I mean?

No - please explain. (He won't).

If you've got nothing to say - well drop out of the thread.

Please answer my question. (He won't).

Moderator

Softus stop the wind up and keep with the topic.

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Edit:

Okaaaaay then; this was the question:

But how many problem adults did that alleged school create?

...that I asked after joe-90 made the following statement:

The thing is that we had NO problem kids in our school - not one.

Poking fun at joe, whilst as easy as shooting fish in a barrel, had a serious side to it.

Assuming, for one dangerous moment, that joe's point was serious, my question, that he has ignored, was meant to imply that it's fatuous to assert that corporal punishment in school is a fair punishment and a valid deterrent simply on the grounds that it made him and his contemporaries behave.

The school environment isn't the only influence on child psychology, but it's widely perceived to be A Good Thing that teachers have had their license to beat pupils summarily revoked.

Someone I know, whose identity I wouldn't wish to be known here, works in a counselling service that specialises in domestic violence, with a lot of clients being children of dysfunctional families; we talk about his/her work a lot, and consequently I have a better-than-the-average lay understanding of the common elements of influence, of a disharmonious family, upon the growing mind.

This is on a tangent from the original post, and in no way intended to impugn the nature of the relationship between toffee and her children, but highly relevant to the general question of how to introduce and teach self-discipline to children whilst not constraining their personal growth and creating a trauma that far outstrips the problems surrounding bad behaviour and lasts into adult life.

 

[joe-90]

Softus, you are talking piffle as usual. There were no problem kids in my school - not one. Show me a school that can say that today. Society is falling apart yet lefties like you cannot see it.

No dicipline = yob culture.


Ask your Dad, mate.



joe

 

[Glassman]

I have to say that I sort of agree with what Joe-90 is trying to say. As kids are getting wrapped up in more and more cotton wool we do generally seem to be heading towards more of a yob culture although I also think that a lot of parents should be held more accountable for this.
If you look at the general state of schools say 50 years ago kids seemed to have a lot of respect for their elders and if they stepped out of line they were given the cane. You talk to anybody who went to school during the 50's and they all say that discipline was an essential part of raising children.
Now I aren't that old but I revisited my old high school only a few weeks back (work related) and found that the school now actually employs behaviour specialists to offer help to the more difficult kids. I find it outragous that they need to pay these so-called specialists when most of these kids are just being rebellious and are purely seeking attention in the first place! FFS why are we encouraging our kids to act retarded!?
I do a lot of work on schools and a lot of the verbal abuse we take from some of the kids is unbelievable. Our vans are always being pelted with rocks and if left unnattended for just a few seconds our power tools are stolen and the teachers seem to be completely powerless to do anything about it. Looking back, a few of my old school mates probably fall into this category. Some of them were a little rebellious a times but they weren't offered specialist bullsh!t advice and they've all turned out okay with good jobs and now families of their own.


Back on topic, my family has a history of diabetes and although I dont have it myself a couple of my neices do. Strangely enough both of them were diagnosed with it at the age of 6 and it was one of those things that developed quite literally overnight.
I think you should seek medical advise regarding your little boy's behaviour. Seems to me like there could well be a problem with his blood sugar levels but only a doctor will be able to advise you all said and done. Better to get him checked by someone who knows what they're talking about.

 

[johnny_t]

Whilst there probably was less bad behaviour, say, 30 years ago, and also corporal punishment, it is not the only variable and so cannot be positively identified as the only cause.

Children's food is pumped full of **** these days to get them hooked
Children are specifically and agressively targetted by advertisers
Children's TV presenters foster the idea that rebelliousness is cool

None of these happened 30 years ago and all can have a bearing. Yes, parents can try to avoid them, but its an uphill battle some days.....



On a slightly different note, we were out for a walk last night and one of my sons, maybe 10ft in front of us, turned into a snicket (that's like a little alleyway, for you Southerners out there). By the time we got there, he had completely disappeared. After a fairly intense half hour, we found him - He had cycled home, crossing three roads in the process - He's only three !!! Had to tread a fine line between being cross, but also emphasising that going home is the right thing to do when lost.